And the fun thing is that once you grant these permissions, the app has them through all updates.
So even if the current version of the app "doesn't do anything" the next version could do whatever it wants within those.
Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm
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Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm
#272Since Electronic Arts righteously dumped FIFA like a ton of rotten bricks, why don't they organise a football world cup instead? Less corruption money must mean more leftover for the players and staff involved. Also instead of some nebulous process for the host country selection, get game owners to vote, they're already very securely identified. The time to ride on the complete stink the air conditioned slave-labour…
No-one plays in the World Cup for the money.
Don't know why you're getting downvoted, this is correct. There's maybe some bonuses and appearance fees for national teams ... but all the big names people care about earn their money playing for their club.
Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm
#273- Sir, you have to install this application, it's available on both iOS and the Google Play Store. - Do you have a Debian package? - I beg your pardon? - My Pinephone runs a modified version of Debian, the Universal Operating System. - ... What is that? - Oh fine. I'll settle for a Flatpack then. - I'm not sure I follow. -Does Qatar's Law require me to have an Android phone xor an iPhone? - No ... ? - Well your Law s…
If they really really want to track people: - Sir, you have to install this application, it's available on both iOS and the Google Play Store. - Do you have a Debian package? - Give me a moment to check our database of alternative OSes.. Why yes, yes, we do have this as a Debian package. - ... Well... is the app truly compulsory? - Yes Sir, indeed it is I'm afraid. Security, safety and all that. - ...
Even if the government went to the trouble of creating the Debian package, they wouldn't allow it to run on an OS that doesn't support a particularly restrictive "Secure Boot" setup, which would provide the mobile network with a remote attestation that you are running only "certified" packages and system services (including a minimal set of mandatory ones).
Naturally, this certification process would ban apps which could spoof the UI of any official apps, but the ban would have to go further and include any apps which users have built from source themselves. End-to-end encrypted messaging apps (without backdoors) would similarly be banned.
At that point, the fact that you have the source code for all of the software running on your surveillance device isn't much comfort. What good is a phone when you are unable to speak?
Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm
#274Every country should have rights to control what enters their borders. Be it phones or people. Nothing unreasonable here considering the existing standards of border control around the world. Just next logical step to prevent terrorism and undesirable activities. Don't like it, don't go.
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Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm
#275Permissions from Aurora Store (3rd party to Play Store): Hayya: - control vibration - have full network access - prevent phone from sleeping - run at startup - run foreground service - view Wi-Fi connections - view network connections - access sensor data at a high sampling rate - access approximate location only in the foreground - access precise location only the foreground - listen to C2DM messages Etheraz: - acce…
> Also it doesn't "override other apps" whatever that should mean, but can draw over other apps.
It's a permission designed for accessibility. Because it's so intrusive you usually have to go through a more complex flow to enable it.
"override other apps" is a defensible colloquial definition because it enables clickjacking. Clickjacking is when you overlay an opaque, innocuous overlay and then open something you maliciously want to trick the user into clicking behind it.
Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm
#276Earlier quoted context omitted.
Qatar has a pretty good airport with an extremely convenient location (more than 80% of the world population live within a 6 hour flight)
That makes it a great airport hub, but it doesn't have the infrastructure to host, feed, transport, place in a stadium the hundreds of thousands of fans that want to watch a World Cup.
A lot of fans will actually be staying in Dubai and flying over. I read that there will be dozens of flights per day between the two locations.
Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm
#277Earlier quoted context omitted.
At some point few years ago it became practically impossible to do any business in China from the outside without what's app (no idea why as allegedly its banned there). This is around the some time samsung had their "My Knox" feature on their S8 or S9 phone. This feature was like an isolated container for apps, an android equivalent of VM. The purpose was to place your banking and other critical apps there and the n…
It still does, it's now called "Secure Folder". There's "Insular" from F-Droid as well.
> Insular
Does anyone else have any experience with this app?
Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm
#278Since Electronic Arts righteously dumped FIFA like a ton of rotten bricks, why don't they organise a football world cup instead? Less corruption money must mean more leftover for the players and staff involved. Also instead of some nebulous process for the host country selection, get game owners to vote, they're already very securely identified. The time to ride on the complete stink the air conditioned slave-labour…
Huh? Why should a video game company organize a football world cup?
Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm
#279Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, it’s worse. All of these steps are asynchronous besides #1, which they don’t need to do upfront… We are apparently in the age of “I can draw a square on google maps, so that makes me privy to [chunk of mass privacy information]”. Worse is they don’t even need the mapping platform to cooperate. Most of this information probably still flows through second-party data brokers or else we would have heard whispers that…
Yup, women in the US need to be extremely careful about the apps they install. In Texas, app devs can get massive bounties for reporting if a woman has a medical procedure.
Just a comment on your obfuscating language: lethal injection is also a medical procedure.
Abortion is a complex issue that should be discussed honestly, not obfuscated.
Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm
#280Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do all clubs people want to watch have contracts with FIFA? Yes Do all the manufacturers of sports clothing, shoes, balls, goal posts, etc. have deals with FIFA? Yes Does FIFA use bribes and any means necessary to prevent anyone from disturbing their racket schemes? Yes Don’t forget you’re dealing with a lot of very powerful and dangerous people here that make really big money, are deeply intertwined with governments…
What clubs have contracts with FIFA?
Clubs are members of their local association, which is a member of and regulated by FIFA.