When will IdeaVim (or similar) work? Can't use it until then.
JetBrains invites developers to join the Fleet Public Preview Program
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Re: JetBrains invites developers to join the Fleet Public Preview Program
#272Earlier quoted context omitted.
I personally love Toolbox in our corporate environment. I just wish it would default to using system proxy settings on Windows and propagate Proxy settings to the IDE's it installs by default.
And a better way to handle certs for it, and all the IDEs, behind a corporate MITM SSL proxy would really improve my day.
Yes, absolutely!
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#273I think Visual Studio code has great influence on it but after trying it, I think VS code can also learn few things about interface from it. Really neat.
Probably JetBrains thought to leverage tons of in house Java code otherwise I think Rust + Skia or similar would have been a great option with almost no run time requirements. Rust gurus can say better but I have seen pretty impressive cross platform apps in Rust such as alacritty and warp.
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#274Earlier quoted context omitted.
The amount of data that VSCode collects dwarfs this though.
It's a single toggle to turn off all telemetry (anonymized, limited to feature usage - no reporting of source files/projects that I've seen), which takes a few seconds to configure at install time as it's literally a menu item (Code > Preferences > Telemetry): https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/getstarted/telemetry You can also dump all possible telemetry events at the command-line.
You can’t really shut down all VSCode telemetry.
Source: https://www.roboleary.net/tools/2022/04/20/vscode-telemetry....
Re: JetBrains invites developers to join the Fleet Public Preview Program
#275I think Visual Studio code has great influence on it but after trying it, I think VS code can also learn few things about interface from it. Really neat. Probably JetBrains thought to leverage tons of in house Java code otherwise I think Rust + Skia or similar would have been a great option with almost no run time requirements. Rust gurus can say better but I have seen pretty impressive cross platform apps in Rust su…
I honestly think it would be painful to write a large GUI app like this in Rust, and it's not something I would attempt.
Backend and code analytics side, sure. But like you said they have lots of in-house code written in Java.
It's interesting they stuck with Java for the UI, but it does seem to be snappy and I'm glad to see them walk away from Swing.
Re: JetBrains invites developers to join the Fleet Public Preview Program
#276Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a single toggle to turn off all telemetry (anonymized, limited to feature usage - no reporting of source files/projects that I've seen), which takes a few seconds to configure at install time as it's literally a menu item (Code > Preferences > Telemetry): https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/getstarted/telemetry You can also dump all possible telemetry events at the command-line.
You can’t really shut down all VSCode telemetry. Source: https://www.roboleary.net/tools/2022/04/20/vscode-telemetry....
FTA:
> Next, I wanted to see what would happen when I disabled telemetry. After some activity, I checked the log, and found no events were logged. That is good.
Re: JetBrains invites developers to join the Fleet Public Preview Program
#277Earlier quoted context omitted.
[JetBrains employee] In the future Fleet will be able to update itself. Right now, we use Toolbox App as it can do Fleet updates easier.
I personally love Toolbox in our corporate environment. I just wish it would default to using system proxy settings on Windows and propagate Proxy settings to the IDE's it installs by default.
While I believe there are JB employees in this thread, your wish is more likely to be fulfilled if it is a formal ticket: https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issues/TBX
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#278Interesting! Looking forward to trying it out. I won't consider paying for it until it's at least FOSS though, like IntelliJ or PyCharm. I paid for those 2 products and those 2 products alone solely because they are free and open source (I can't get shafted by a sudden change in licensing and can switch to a functionally equivalent free version on a whim).
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#279Looks pretty and well-designed. Snappy too, but they're going to have to work on the startup time.
I'll check back in a year when it's a bit more feature rich. And when you can disable the smooth scrolling.
Re: JetBrains invites developers to join the Fleet Public Preview Program
#280This looks really promising. But by far the biggest moat that Jetbrains is going to have to cross to get into VSCode territory is the plugin ecosystem. Personally I work on React projects so my first thought was: "is there a Prettier[1] plugin?". Looking through the landing page it looks like Plugins are in the works but until that is implemented, it's going to be hard adopting it. ALSO I just noticed this but can so…
> But by far the biggest moat that Jetbrains is going to have to cross to get into VSCode territory is the plugin ecosystem. Personally I work on React projects so my first thought was: "is there a Prettier[1] plugin?". This just reinforces my feeling that a major driver behind VSCode's popularity is that people just don't know better [1] 1. Download WebStorm (or IDEA) and write some React in it. And Typescript. Refa…
> This just reinforces my feeling that a major driver behind VSCode's popularity is that people just don't know better
I am very happy that VSCode is mostly just editor.