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We Need New Motherboards Before GPUs Collapse Under Their Own Gravity

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Re: We Need New Motherboards Before GPUs Collapse Under Their Own Gravity

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Post by qwerty456127 »

Back in the days when I was a kid tower PCs were comparably rare and most of the PCs used the horizontal desktop design which essentially is the same like a tower but put on its side. People would often put the monitor on top of it to save the desk space (see the Windows 95-2000 "my computer" icon). Isn't it time for that to return so we wouldn't need “GPU Support Sticks”?

By the way, what actually dissatisfies me is the majority of mainboards having too few PCIex slots. Whenever I buy a PC I want a great extensible future-proof mainboard + very basic everything incl. a cheap graphics card so I can upgrade different parts the moments I feel like . Unfortunately such many-slot maininboards seem to all target the luxury gamer/miner segment and be many times more expensive than ordinary ones. I don't understand why some extra slots have to raise the cost up 10 times.

Re: We Need New Motherboards Before GPUs Collapse Under Their Own Gravity

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Lramseyer wrote: post #89

> Should we have GPU VRAM slots alongside CPU RAM slots? Is that even possible? I chuckled a little at this because I used to wonder the same thing until I had to actually bring up a GDDR6 interface. Basically the reason GDDR6 is able to run so much faster is because we assume that everything is soldered down, and not socketed/slotted. Back when I worked for a GPU company, I occasionally had conversations with co-wor…

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Re: We Need New Motherboards Before GPUs Collapse Under Their Own Gravity

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Post by bearmode »

cyanydeez wrote: post #96
dragontamer wrote: post #7

1. While I agree we're beginning to reach absurd proportions, lets really analyze the situation and think about it. 2. Are there any GPUs that actually have performed physical damage on a motherboard slot? 3. GPUs are already 2-wide by default, and some are 3-wide. 4-wide GPUs will have more support from the chassis. This seems like the simpler solution, especially since most people rarely have a 2nd add in card at a…

In reality, there is no reason GPUs should be add-ons. Just star designing motherboards with integrated GPUs of sufficient size. Case closed.

Then you lose modularity, which is a huge benefit to PC gaming? Now if you want to upgrade to the newest graphics card, you also need to get a new motherboard. Which also could mean you need a new CPU, which also could mean you need new RAM.

Right now you can just switch the graphics card out for another and keep everything else the same.

Re: We Need New Motherboards Before GPUs Collapse Under Their Own Gravity

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Post by neoberg »

staz wrote: post #267
Lramseyer wrote: post #89

> Should we have GPU VRAM slots alongside CPU RAM slots? Is that even possible? I chuckled a little at this because I used to wonder the same thing until I had to actually bring up a GDDR6 interface. Basically the reason GDDR6 is able to run so much faster is because we assume that everything is soldered down, and not socketed/slotted. Back when I worked for a GPU company, I occasionally had conversations with co-wor…

What if we plug the motherboard in the GPU instead

What if gpu was the motherboard instead?

Re: We Need New Motherboards Before GPUs Collapse Under Their Own Gravity

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Post by bearmode »

ikiris wrote: post #209
CydeWeys wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not a reasonable answer. Many people want to buy assembled systems, and lack the skills/inclination to do it themselves. Pre-built systems is a huge $1B+ market, and "kill the market entirely" is not an acceptable answer.

Your business model is not required to be viable. I said don't ship them. I did not say don't build prebuilt systems.

Breakage is normal in any industry, what are you suggesting as an alternative? There are companies shipping nationally and internationally with very few issues

Re: We Need New Motherboards Before GPUs Collapse Under Their Own Gravity

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qwerty456127 wrote: post #271

Back in the days when I was a kid tower PCs were comparably rare and most of the PCs used the horizontal desktop design which essentially is the same like a tower but put on its side. People would often put the monitor on top of it to save the desk space (see the Windows 95-2000 "my computer" icon). Isn't it time for that to return so we wouldn't need “GPU Support Sticks”? By the way, what actually dissatisfies me is…

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Re: We Need New Motherboards Before GPUs Collapse Under Their Own Gravity

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Post by qwerty456127 »

> Maybe we can make motherboards with a GPU slot next to the CPU slot and have a unified massive radiator sitting on top of them

Sounds reasonable, we already used to have separate CPU and FPU sockets in the distant past.

However, isn't it nice every extension card incl. GPU cards uses the same unified connector standard and can by replaced with anything very different in place? Wouldn't switching to the an MXM form-factor, introducing an extra kind of slot, be a step back? Haven't we once ditched a dedicated GPU card slot (AGP) in favour of unification already?

Re: We Need New Motherboards Before GPUs Collapse Under Their Own Gravity

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Post by Thorentis »

Why do we need to keep plugging the GPU directly into the board? Why can't GPU makers ship cables that go into the PCIe slots, and then connect to the GPU, then we can mount the GPU somewhere else in the case (perhaps case makers can start adding GPU slots where the DVD drives used to go or something).
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