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Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

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Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

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Those are just missing features, though! My favorite Teams bug is when the arrow keys stop working for text navigation. They had to go out of the way to break something like that.

There’s also a bug where it will suddenly reverse text direction from left right to right left. It’s very strange.

I started Teams the other day and the whole screen was upside down as if I’d rotated my surface. Just Teams - every other application was fine.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

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Long ago Microsoft had MSN Messenger, which was one of the leading messaging apps. It worked well, and many 'normal' users were using it. Then Microsoft dissolved the team behind it and screwed up the product so bad with bloatware and ads that everyone moved to WhatsApp (except in the US where people went back to texting). Then Microsoft came out with Communicator, renamed it to Lync, which was a corporate messenger/…

It's kind of crazy to look back and see just how much worse we are today than some years ago with regards to this stuff. I remember an old social media named Orkut, had pretty much everything facebook had and more, also had a huge userbase in brazil and india(?) iirc, but just goot overtaken by facebook. Original skype would probably work better than zoom does today with a few tweaks(I assume, could be wrong there wh…

>"closed community" website creators(that I cannot for the life of me remember the names)

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Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

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Long ago Microsoft had MSN Messenger, which was one of the leading messaging apps. It worked well, and many 'normal' users were using it. Then Microsoft dissolved the team behind it and screwed up the product so bad with bloatware and ads that everyone moved to WhatsApp (except in the US where people went back to texting). Then Microsoft came out with Communicator, renamed it to Lync, which was a corporate messenger/…

You forgot that MS also bought GroupMe and it somehow still exists.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

#275

Long ago Microsoft had MSN Messenger, which was one of the leading messaging apps. It worked well, and many 'normal' users were using it. Then Microsoft dissolved the team behind it and screwed up the product so bad with bloatware and ads that everyone moved to WhatsApp (except in the US where people went back to texting). Then Microsoft came out with Communicator, renamed it to Lync, which was a corporate messenger/…

I don’t know which universe you live in, but things like Microsoft Communicator/Lync and “worked very well” do not belong to the same sentence in mine.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

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Exactly. Nobody likes it. We use it because we have to. We have to because it was already paid for.

Also, most users haven't ever experienced software that's any better, with a few rare exceptions such as Excel. We programmers have it so good. "How can people put up with such bad software" is a recurring theme, and not unique to Teams or even Microsoft.

Everybody I know has used Zoom at this point, and has thus seen what dead-simple and "just works" telecom software can be (not to mention FaceTime, which seems to revel in "your never-owned-a-computer grandparent is happy to use this").

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

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Still? It started good and became bad, like most software. And, as is also the norm, there is no amount of money that can fix shitty software unless you Ship-of-Theseus it, which is fundamentally at odds with the ideologies of most project managers, whose rankings of how much they enjoy doing things are, from highest to lowest: - Showing off optics bullshit like burndown charts - Adding features - Fixing extremely se…

It did not start good. You couldn't use keyboard to switch chats in the first year, or customize keyboard shortcuts...

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

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I teach visual effects and digital art. I am used to the madly compLex interfaces (Maya, Blender, Nuke etc). I have no fear of such software. But I am completely defeated by Teams. - Why two windows when you are in a meeting? The second window is sometimes hard to find intuitively. - Why, when opening an attachment, is the user locked out of chat? Again, with many windows open, the preview can look and function like…

Also is function X under the three dot menu, the inexplicable and sometimes not there "other three dot menu", the gear, or the sidebar?

It's like $PATH, but for UI elements.

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