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Post by sumedh »

ndiddy wrote: post #180
sumedh wrote: post #116

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> but then I didn't get the appeal of iPads when announced. Let me guess you dont have kids.

In early childhood, children's brains will rapidly adapt to their environment ( https://academic.oup.com/pch/article/11/9/571/2648303?login=... ), for example Aboriginal Australian children develop strong spatial cognition to survive in an environment with few landmarks ( https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/001002... ). It'll be interesting to see what happens when the generation of children whose b…

You can make the same arguments in the past about kids watching TV and then kids using a PC.

In 10 years, parents will be complaining about AR/VR

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by sneak »

Sholmesy wrote: post #130

Review from Dave2D 4 months ago, addresses the crease & hinge on a pre-production unit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFGhvYLbBRE I think it seems like a cool idea, 17" at 4:3 ratio is alot of screen real estate, at a 12.5" 16:9 footprint. Lot of negativity in this comment section, personally not something I'm that interested in, but I am interested in people experimenting with the form factor.

It’s only 2560 by 1920.

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Post by cowtools »

iasay wrote: post #267
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #264

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>Android devices as you can't control them adequately What's missing on Android that Apple has for control?

one browser engine across the whole platform and white listed content filters.

What prevents you from just using your own browser with your own parental safety controls, and then sand-boxing the user from installing other apps?

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by vxNsr »

jacquesm wrote: post #110

The responses to this are more interesting than the device itself. It's innovative, it's done by a brand that has a reasonable reputation for reliability and for standing behind their products and it may well fit a niche. Innovation is always going to be risky, and Asus stands to lose some of their credibility if the device does not hold up over time. So I'll be more than happy to let them do their thing. As for sust…

> it's done by a brand that has a reasonable reputation for reliability and for standing behind their products

This is simply not true. Asus like acer is a brand I tell people to avoid when shopping for a new laptop. They have a horrible reputation on QA and as others have mentioned their support is dead last in actually getting things done.

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Post by nyadesu »

seanw444 wrote: post #268
eldaisfish wrote: post #234

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Not every other company. Apple - to name one - are often simply excellent at this because they understand the power of customer satisfaction. There are numerous stories of apple replacing failed hardware with equivalent, newer models - phones and laptops alike. There are plenty of legitimate criticisms one can make of Apple but customer satisfaction under warranty is not one of them.

I personally don't care for their devices, or their locked-down software. But seeing how they treat my parents, they certainly have great customer satisfaction.

> or their locked-down software

Not anymore, check out Asahi Linux.

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Post by clintonwoo »

ilaksh wrote: post #155
eterps wrote: post #5

AFAIK there is absolutely no innovation with software defined keyboards, they statically mimic a physical keyboard. I would expect well defined open APIs so that applications tailor the keyboard for optimal contextualized use for that app. The only thing that came close is Apple's touchbar but even that one is quite static and not very liberating in practice. Of course the downside of adaptive software keyboards is t…

I think eventually (5-10 years?) most "laptops" may be using on-screen keyboards. Especially if there is somewhat decent haptic feedback. It just makes so much more sense from a manufacturing standpoint for one thing. Makes it much simpler and you don't need to create separate keyboard layouts for different languages. Also, younger generations are quite comfortable using on-screen keyboards on their phones. But what…

I have some doubts about this, since I feel like using a screen as a keyboard is more prone to joint based injury or wear and tear like posture or RSI related problems. So at least I don't think it would be the main keyboard type.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by ddalex »

iasay wrote: post #204
ddalex wrote: post #189

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But there is no indication that it breaks every month, and there is a strong indication that it breaks less ten once every 6 years. Also there is literally no indication that it takes 2 months to repair. What I am seeing from you is just negative comments about this technology, literally based on assumption and made-up standards that are not common in the industry.

Have you dealt with an Asus RMA before? I have. I was being kind with the 2 months...

Ah, just say that you have a personal issue with Asus, not that a product idea is shit and should not be done.

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Post by iasay »

cowtools wrote: post #273
iasay wrote: post #267

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one browser engine across the whole platform and white listed content filters.

What prevents you from just using your own browser with your own parental safety controls, and then sand-boxing the user from installing other apps?

Some of the auto updated apps have a history of adding circumventable embedded browsers in about boxes and things on Android which can be used to browse the internet. This happens on iOS too but the browser engine is safari and is subject to the same white lists as normal Safari.

This is a fairly large security concern if I'm honest generally.

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Post by croes »

jacquesm wrote: post #123
croes wrote: post #114

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Is it really an innovation? If I look at foldable S smartphones then this is like a bigger version with an external keyboard.

Is there a similar device on the market right now? A 'bigger version' by two orders of magnitude surface wise certainly seems innovative to me, I'm not aware of another company risking their reputation on something like this at present but I'll be happy to be corrected. There was an intel proof-of-concept but I'm not aware of anything that was actually available to the public. Keep in mind that what looks trivial to…

The problem of foldable screens is the fold not surface are. So the fold is longer now.

These isn't a real innovation to me.

Is a smartphone with double the screen size innovative?

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Post by mentos »

jacquesm wrote: post #110

The responses to this are more interesting than the device itself. It's innovative, it's done by a brand that has a reasonable reputation for reliability and for standing behind their products and it may well fit a niche. Innovation is always going to be risky, and Asus stands to lose some of their credibility if the device does not hold up over time. So I'll be more than happy to let them do their thing. As for sust…

Currently I have 2 PCs under my desk and 2 monitors that I use for work. I've fantasized about trying to travel and work but lugging a laptop and a portable monitor around seem too cumbersome. I'd love to experiment with two of these that could fold inside of each other (like 2 hands clasping) and set them up on a desk in an airbnb and remote desktop into my 2 home PCs from each.

But most likely the idea of trying to travel/vacation and work at the same time is a bad one. Should probably just take advantage of economies of scale and do all my working at once and then all my traveling at once.

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