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Or when making money became harder. Amazing the number of people I personally know who took 1 year of day trading to be the “norm” and made big life decisions based on their results. From quitting good jobs to buying houses they can’t afford, all because they made big money in 2021 and thought they could keep repeating it every year.
This happened in 1998-1999 too. People got online trading accounts, did great and then decided to try to invest for a living. You should not take investment advice from people who have been doing it less than a decade. It takes time to sort out the lucky from the smart.
Robinhood lays off 23% of staff
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#272Earlier quoted context omitted.
Watch money. Money is the barometer of a society's virtue. When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion--when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing--when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors--when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against t…
Yes, money is _one_ barometer. I get it -- I often say "we're doomed" -- but very few of us get into the details of what that means. Maybe you have? What does the descent into doom look like? Any predictions?
http://faculty.citadel.edu/sobel/Entrepreneurship%20Class%20...
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The impact doesn’t matter, the magnitude of the mistake does. * If I take all reasonable precautions and bad thing still happens — not a fuckup. * If try my best but make an honest mistake like being forgetful — minor fuckup. * If I try my best but don’t know something crucial — minor fuckup. If I am paid to be an expert on that thing — major fuckup. * If I deliberately choose to forego necessary precautions because…
“crypto up plz” being the calculated, good faith, board approved risk? I’m not saying it was illegal. All I’m saying is the people who paid for the bad bets (with their livelihoods) were not the same ones who made the bets in the first place.
And if you’re a stock holder then you should love this move since it’s in your best interest.
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Frustrating to see the incredibly common conflation of equity and salary. Even though it’s always correctly suffixed with “compensation”, people assume that means “a bank account with 8 zeros”.
It's even more bizarre/frustrating for someone, especially in tech where many of our TC is largely RSUs, not understand that wealth is almost never held in cash. When I was young (and poor) I also believed that being rich meant having Scrooge McDuck piles of cash to swim in. After my first big RSU payout I quickly realized that nobody with more than a few 100k in assets keeps anything close to the majority of them in…
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#275Why not cut pay across the board? I know this is not the cultural norm, but I am curious how long this norm can persist. Without the ability to cut pay, layoffs are the only option for companies burning cash and losing altitude. That locks pay increases at the same inflated point that the bubble supported but which reality does not. To go one step further, is there a single advanced economy in which pay cuts, rather…
I worked at a startup that tried that. Within 4 months, a good chunk of the best tech people were gone. Within 12 months they had gone under. Maybe for an economy-wide recession where your workers have no other options. But if it's just startup risk that are making you founder, you're basically guaranteeing a death spiral. There is some chance if you make it a fixed-term paycut with a payback with interest, but you b…
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#276We live in such morally bankrupt times. You can just say "you take responsibility" without actually taking responsibility at all. Our expectations have become so low and we've become so complacent that just the statement is enough. In similar vain, "we care about your mental health" as is the common internal email from HR. No actual care is offered though. Giving staff a day off is a tangible example of doing at leas…
As in: “Ours is the most reliable product!” Is just empty puffery, but cash-money-back warranty terms exceeding all other products in the market is a statement with real meaning.
“We care about our employees” is free to state and worthless. Golden parachutes are expensive and valuable.
Etc…
A similar statement is: “Don’t tell me your priorities, show me your budget and I’ll tell you what your priorities really are.”
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Sure, but also, none of my (investing) friends use Tastyworks, and almost all of them are using RH as their primary investing platform! Companies in hyper-growth stages may hire/fire differently than others.
Tastyworks was founded by the founders, CTO, and CFO of Thinkorswim. I worked on thinkorswim institutional desk for several years back in the mid-2000s. Not great brand recognition but a company built for traders by traders.
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>just because it's supposedly free (even though you pay for it in the fills, and get frontrunning trades) Can you provide a source for this? Citadel (one of the companies robinhood sells order flow to) claims in regulatory filings[1] that the overwhelming majority of orders are executed at market price or better, and that they on average save traders money. [1] https://s3.amazonaws.com/citadel-wordpress-prd101/wp-con…
Wha the point of paying for order flow if you "execute at market price or better"? Are you suggesting Citadel is a charity?
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-02-05/robinh...
tl;dr: adverse selection. retail traders are less risky to deal with, so market makers can offer better prices to them.
>If the retail trades are random. If retail traders usually buy before the stock goes up, and sell before the stock goes down, the wholesaler would consistently lose money on price risk. (This is called “adverse selection.”) But they don’t. Even now, retail traders tend to be small, dispersed and uninformed. If you sell stock to a retail trader for $58.15, you have no particular reason to think it will go up (or down). The retail traders are trading randomly, which is what allows you to treat this problem as though you were matching them up with each other at a fixed price and collecting a spread. In reality you are matching them up with each other over time, not simultaneously, and the price moves while you are doing it, but the randomness of their trading means that this difference doesn’t matter too much.
>Meanwhile market makers on the public exchange are doing something similar, but with institutional traders who tend to be informed and trade large lots of stock, so their trading does carry a lot more risk of adverse selection. If a big institution buys some stock, that does mean the stock is somewhat more likely to go up, so if you sell them the stock you are somewhat more likely to lose money. This is why the spread on the public exchange—the difference between the $58 best bid to buy the stock and the $58.25 best offer to sell the stock—is so much wider than the 5 cents that the wholesaler charges. The wholesaler is just matching up small pleasant random orders and clipping a spread; the stock-exchange market maker is facing a real risk of being run over by an informed trader.
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It's simple to say we'd be more charitable if we had incomes 1,000x or more our current annual compensation, but I do genuinely wonder if I'd be different. Would I be greedy, would I care about doing right to the laid off employees-- it's hard to imagine how crossing that bridge might change people.
I'm not going to try to justify how I would act, or how anyone else should act, were I to have a compensation package putting me easily in the top 0.1% of society, but we can collectively dispense with the notion that certain types of compensation (i.e. stocks) must necessarily be prohibitively harder for a CEO to give up than just money.
Stock is absolutely more difficult to liquidate for a CEO.
Re: Robinhood lays off 23% of staff
#280That's a lot of staff - it means 1/5th of your coworkers got laid off... I'm very bearish on Robinhood - I don't know if they have enough of a moat to defend themselves from other free stock trading apps. People have forgiven so many outages. The Gamestop saga was the straw that broke the camel's back for many.
Not to mention they are screwed if congress passes legislation to ban selling order flow to firms like Citidel.