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Re: Everything with a battery should have an off switch

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post #10

…And, one should be able to turn of every led even when powered on… At Ikea I almost bought a nice brushed steel extractor hood, except it had this obnoxiously bright blue led on the front. Why? I know when that thing is on without it drawing my attention constantly. Same with my Lenovo X13 gen 2, there is a bright white led next to the power button… just why…???

> except it had this obnoxiously bright blue led on the front.

I keep a roll of black electrical tape in my office :)

Re: Everything with a battery should have an off switch

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post #4

Examples lying around in my house: Bathroom scale: lovely it powers up when you tap it, but eats up 2 button cells a year for a few dozen uses a year Kitchen scales, bit more use, at least once a day but again 2 button cells a year electronic caliper: Same, eats up 1 button cell a year, just sitting in my toolbox Strangely enough none of our kids toys with batteries seem to suffer from this problem How much extra cos…

> electronic caliper: Same, eats up 1 button cell a year, just sitting in my toolbox ooo a chance to plug one of my favorite youtubers; I believe it's this video [0] that compares cheap with expensive / brand digital calipers; the TL;DR is that the expensive ones use much less when off, or, the cheap ones use 4x as much. They both keep using power when off though, so that when you move the calipers while off it will…

This seems to be common in battery powered test equipment. I have a decade old Fluke multimeter and five year old Mitutoyo calipers that both seem to be powered by magic. Neither has needed battery replacement despite regular use.

Re: Everything with a battery should have an off switch

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post #243

> Oh, great, this debate again! I shall use this post as ammunition next time I am arguing with our stupid design team about why we need an off switch on the stupid product we are designing, because it is a giant pain to live with devices you cannot turn off. I increasingly subscribe to the thesis that many designers and design teams design primarily in an effort to impress other designers . They don't have to use th…

> I increasingly subscribe to the thesis that many designers and design teams design primarily in an effort to impress other designers. They don't have to use the things. They often don't even really care if the things work at all. They care that other designers - their artistic peers - are impressed. To put things in perspective, this is how we get stuff like the Eiffel tower.

Sacré bleu!

Re: Everything with a battery should have an off switch

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post #269

If he read the manual he'd know the off-switch for Switch controller is clicking the pair button one time.

Who reads the manual? I suspect the HN crowd tends to read them more often, even so, I suspect many of us avoid that until "necessary" (IE: I've been stuck on a problem I care about for too long)

Re: Everything with a battery should have an off switch

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

i have read that the build quality of batteries has dropped.

I have a digital LCD clock, a giveaway by NTT from a trade fair, that still works with the same single Maxell AA battery since 1998. The battery quality must have been amazing at the time, or the clock uses almost no power. I honestly don't know how that's possible. :D

Ine the same way designers discussed above try and big dick their designs, clocks when through some EE big dicking on trying to minimize battery usage. Same thing with LCDs.

They got them to really low power usage. Some of the ones today would basically last your whole life on a single button cell.

Re: Everything with a battery should have an off switch

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post #269

If he read the manual he'd know the off-switch for Switch controller is clicking the pair button one time.

As indicated in the thread via his own words and pictures this is an off-brand switch controller, not a Nintendo official one. They don't have the same requirements for even features as the official Nintendo Pro or Joycon controllers.

Re: Everything with a battery should have an off switch

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The caliper and kitchen scale already have buttons. (they would both be shitty without a zero/tare button)

Many of these “auto zero” which is why you have to do the scale dance - tap it with your foot to turn it on, wait for it to say zero, then step on.

Yeah, my explicit mention of kitchen scales and calipers was intentional, they both become much more useful if the user can choose to zero the readout at any time.

This is less true for a bathroom scale.

Re: Everything with a battery should have an off switch

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post #103

Just scanning my desk which has a laptop, mac mini, monitor, phone, nintendo switch, a bunch of ipods ... the only things I can spot that have a power switch are 4 of the 5 ipods.

What iPod has a power switch??? On mine at least (3rd gen Nano) the closest you can get to off is asleep with the hold switch on.

It’s been a while since I used my iPod Video/Classic, but I think I remember being able to turn them off by holding the Play button on the dial for three to five seconds. Maybe that was just the hard reset; I don’t remember.

Re: Everything with a battery should have an off switch

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post #269

If he read the manual he'd know the off-switch for Switch controller is clicking the pair button one time.

As indicated in the thread via his own words and pictures this is an off-brand switch controller, not a Nintendo official one. They don't have the same requirements for even features as the official Nintendo Pro or Joycon controllers.

As the owner of a whole passel of shitty third party Switch controllers I have yet to encounter one where the pair button didn't turn it off.
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