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Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering

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Post by bigiain »

IAmPym wrote: post #159

"Why is it so expensive?" - commentary from someone who does this for a living at Sequential Small Volume - each unit is more expensive than a large volume product, you don't get price breaks on any components or tooling costs Design focused - Who is the product for? It isn't for people who want to spend 250$ on a Behringer mixer. It is for people who want something that is high quality and doesn't break. Reliable. F…

> This is also one of the biggest strengths of the company, if you want something cheap you're looking in the wrong place.

Well, they can do cheap. Their range of Pocket Operator stuff is cheap and hilariously fun. I gotta admit, I did click through to see if this was gonna fall into the “cheap and fun” category l8ke them, or the “more serious and priced appropriately” like the OP Z. I’m not the target market for a $1100 mixer, if it’d been more toylike and in the few hundred dollar range, I’d be very tempted. )

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Post by prova_modena »

koof wrote: post #163
IAmPym wrote: post #159

"Why is it so expensive?" - commentary from someone who does this for a living at Sequential Small Volume - each unit is more expensive than a large volume product, you don't get price breaks on any components or tooling costs Design focused - Who is the product for? It isn't for people who want to spend 250$ on a Behringer mixer. It is for people who want something that is high quality and doesn't break. Reliable. F…

I've been looking for a tiny mixer with 3 band eq + FX sends per channel for a while to run synths and/or decks through. This look like this might fit the bill. The compressor on each channel is a bonus. I'm not entirely sure if there's alternative products that would work for me instead, but this has my attention.

1010music bluebox might work for you and is 1/2 the price.

Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering

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Post by bombcar »

peterangular wrote: post #52
reaperducer wrote: post #15

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If I were ever to go back to the Wintel world (or whatever the word is for Windows+AMD), Teenage Engineering's computer is probably the only one my wife would allow in the house: https://teenage.engineering/products/computer-1

Well that's the first time I've ever seen a 1:1 EIZO used in _anything_ marketing related. That monitor used in their marketing photo is the EV2730Q and it's an absolute beast if you're looking for a balance between horizontal/vertical aspect ratios. Obviously not fantastic for gaming (minus Factorio), but for programming + shell work it's outstanding.

Interesting - I have monitors that are as far from 1:1 as you can get - super high ultra wide or whatever they call it, but they’re effectively 2:1 the way I use them.

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Post by aidenn0 »

kennywinker wrote: post #116
aidenn0 wrote: post #84

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It's Teenage Engineering, so more like the price of 8 or 12. Also, no balanced inputs.

Balanced inputs are useful for cancelling noise in long cable runs. There are no long cable runs if your target audience is people making aesthetic 60s instagram videos of their “synth jam in nature” with $2000 of gear in shot and $2000 more to film it.

Regardless of their utility in this device, they are present in many competing devices and they add to the cost.

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Post by [deleted] »

colechristensen wrote: post #227
squeaky-clean wrote: post #136

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And those people definitely aren't in the market for a $1200 audio interface. If you don't own several pieces of gear already, this device has literally no use. If you do own several pieces of gear and want to record and mix them simultaneously, a $1200 interface is not going to be the first one you purchase.

Sure, but people who know all had to learn eventually. I often find myself wondering what a product or service is for not being a target customer in the know. It would be nice if there were more instances of products telling people who don’t know what they are.

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Post by mastazi »

IAmPym wrote: post #159

"Why is it so expensive?" - commentary from someone who does this for a living at Sequential Small Volume - each unit is more expensive than a large volume product, you don't get price breaks on any components or tooling costs Design focused - Who is the product for? It isn't for people who want to spend 250$ on a Behringer mixer. It is for people who want something that is high quality and doesn't break. Reliable. F…

> high quality and doesn't break

When it comes to build quality, I no longer trust TE as a brand. I have the Modular 16 from TE and both build quality and usability are terrible.

Here's a review of the thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpjgwTTKeqc

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Post by vvvzxd »

incanus77 wrote: post #256
vvvzxd wrote: post #174

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not understanding this argument. i'm not a synth manufacturer. korg and roland put out plenty of gear with great features for a lower price than this

Well, someone should tell TE then, because they obviously don't know they're making a huge mistake and this will fail miserably.

im sure there are plenty of fools willing to spend the money on this for cool points, doesnt necessarily mean it isnt stupid

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Post by an-unknown »

eternityforest wrote: post #205
javajosh wrote: post #176

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I don't do this for a living and can't imagine how a statement like "your prototype will be cheaper than commercially available options" could be taken seriously by anyone.

If you don't count your time whatsoever and don't go for the nice case design. I mean at the extreme case, if you can tolerate 40ms of latency and stuttering, a Raspberry Pi and some USB soundcards can do it all. The actual power needed is reasonable and ADC/DACs aren't that insane. A Teensy 4.1 connected to an ESP32 could probably do most of this, if you wanted to do $15k of software development in your spare time a…

Interestingly enough, it seems like the KORG wavestate is actually based on some Raspberry Pi, according to KORG's github page, so you can definitely get less than 40ms latency and no stutter. And yeah, Teensy or even FPGA evaluation boards can get you very far, since software development in your spare time is "free". If you search the web, you'll find many examples of such projects. For example I remember some FPGA based project with iirc a small ~50€ Spartan-6 eval board which implemented a fancy 32 voice 6op FM synthesizer.
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