Many people doesn't seem to understand what pain individuals undergo when their content is taken offline by Google or Github due to a fake DMCA notice. They would have built something over years and one morning entire thing is taken offline due to a fake DMCA notice. Then they have to issue a counter notice with all its legal implications and it also exposes all your private information including full address, name a…
HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]
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Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]
#272Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t like this phrasing because it sounds like you only care because it’s on the front page of HN and it’s a bad look — “because [your] reputation is at stake”. You should care because paying someone to disrupt totally innocent open source projects is a shitty thing to do. Filing false DMCA requests on your behalf is also illegal. I like to think that if this never got any attention and your reputation wasn’t at s…
Here's what we are doing: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31092085 You are right. HN thread triggered this. And we are working on fixing this at the core.
Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]
#273Hello, I'm Vivek, founder/CEO of HackerRank. Our intention with this initiative is to takedown plagiarized code snippets or solutions to company assessments. This was definitely an unintended consequence. We are looking into it ASAP and also going to do an RCA to ensure this doesn't happen again. Sorry, everyone! EDIT: update here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31092085
Possible solutions to affect some justice and reclaim your image: 1. Fire WorthIT Solutions (no RCA necessary, do not automate or outsource DMCA, even if it's human based automation) 2. Apologise to SymPy 3. Discuss internally the cost-vs-benefit (more than monetary) of embarking on copyright policing as part of your company's future strategy 4. Blog results of #3 WRT #3, sustainability comes to mind - if disseminati…
Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]
#274I wonder how many other repos they've wrongfully DMCA'd that we'll never hear about.
List of takedown notices from HackerRank to GitHub: https://github.com/github/dmca/search?q=HackerRank&type=
Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]
#275As a software developer, I've surrendered so much autonomy for the sake of convenience. When it works 99% of the time, things are awesome. But god forbid you are the 1%, cause there is usually no talking to real people to get support. The only recourse is shouting about it on Twitter/HN and hope someone notices, thereby leaving everything to chance - that just makes me sad to my core.
Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]
#276Earlier quoted context omitted.
As someone who (last week) ok'ed a guy with 35 years experience to skip the first round of interviews, only to then watch him struggle to write syntactically-correct code in a language he's (allegedly) been using for longer than I've been alive, I disagree. HR isn't a be-all-end-all metric, and it certainly has its faults, but it's very useful as a first-round filter.
If you're just using HackerRank as a first round filter to see if they can write syntactically-correct code in a language... you don't need hackerRank. Or to restate this, if your interview process can't filter out such a candidate without using hackerRank, your interview process itself is flawed.
Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]
#277Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hello Vivek, Personally I like Hacker Rank and consider it a good way to learn about new algorithms but at the same time I do not like the style of interviews that require it and it makes me wish I could leave the industry because it's a waste of time for people with a lot of practical experience and who have a good portfolio of apps/sites they've created. That said, I would recommend not doing DMCA at all unless it'…
I flat out refuse to be interviewed using it and if the company doesn’t drop the requirement, I drop them.
Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]
#278Not the first time they've taken down Github repos, some with a legal basis (partial problem text, though Fair Use might overrule that if the cases ever made it to court), others with no involvement at all ( https://github.com/egfx/React-Leaderboard still hasn't been restored, for example) More information about previous DMCA abuse here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29239594 Personally, I would not trust a co…
Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]
#279Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thank you, this gives a lot of insight into what is going on. This one tells the whole story: https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/ea3736a0c4c9574e0c8cea06...
And yet the "repo" (seems to be a Gist) referred to in this couternotice is still down.
https://github.com/github/dmca/search?q=TheRayTracer
HackerRank/WorthIT didn't dispute the counternotice (AFAICT), but instead they re-filed the same DMCA notice again, four months later. I think the repo owner gave up at that point.
Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]
#280Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wow! Guess we will never know if this would have happened if it did not make it to the front page of HN. Also @dang, has this post been pinned at the top of the page for everyone to see. Edit: guess it's not..
Upvote it for the algo even though it doesn't make sense.
Or better, downvote it.