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The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone

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Re: The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone

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> If the EU had forced a common standard before USB C became prevalent we would be stuck with USB A. No we wouldn't. > GDPR made web browsing worse with cookie pop ups everywhere. Cookie pop ups are not happening because of GDPR.

> No we wouldn't. This is a content-free denial without argument.

There were arguments in the post that I replied to? Where?

Re: The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone

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> If the EU had forced a common standard before USB C became prevalent we would be stuck with USB A. No we wouldn't. > GDPR made web browsing worse with cookie pop ups everywhere. Cookie pop ups are not happening because of GDPR.

What would happen if the EU enforced a standard before USB C and a manufacturer wanted to use USB C instead of the previous mandated “standard”?

AFAIK they wouldn't be able to use USB C. USB isn't developed by EU but a non profit whose members include different manufacturers. That is where the innovation happens.

Having a standard in doesn't means that innovation slows down/stops or that the standard can't change.

Re: The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone

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You fundamentally misunderstand and misrepresent what is commonly meant by "general purpose." General purpose is not merely a set of specific purposes that a lot of people are into. General purpose means I can freely change it if I want to.

I cannot find a single source that agrees with you on that. The first 3 pages of Google when I search "general purpose computer definition" all show results that largely equate to; "A general-purpose computer is one that, given the appropriate application and required time, should be able to perform most common computing tasks."

Interesting, my search absolutely showed definitions closer to mine (or more specifically, definitions for which my definition is a necessary prequisite), e.g.

https://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2021/3/250710-the-decline-of-...

Re: The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone

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post #273

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I cannot find a single source that agrees with you on that. The first 3 pages of Google when I search "general purpose computer definition" all show results that largely equate to; "A general-purpose computer is one that, given the appropriate application and required time, should be able to perform most common computing tasks."

Interesting, my search absolutely showed definitions closer to mine (or more specifically, definitions for which my definition is a necessary prequisite), e.g. https://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2021/3/250710-the-decline-of-...

Gotta love personalised search results! For a laugh I tried searching it in a few different engines and came up with mixed results - some similar to my definition and some similar to yours.

I'm starting to get the feeling it has a "mainstream" definition and more of a "people in the know" definition. A lot of the sources that matched my definition tended to be from more non-technical, mainstream outlets like the BBC; https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/zkrr97h/revision/1

FWIW I like your definition better, I think closed off environments in the long run will be worse for everyone (except the people that make them).

Re: The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone

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What would happen if the EU enforced a standard before USB C and a manufacturer wanted to use USB C instead of the previous mandated “standard”?

AFAIK they wouldn't be able to use USB C. USB isn't developed by EU but a non profit whose members include different manufacturers. That is where the innovation happens. Having a standard in doesn't means that innovation slows down/stops or that the standard can't change.

Would a phone manufacture have to wait for the new standard to be approved by the government?

Re: The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone

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You could try /e/OS? https://e.foundation/leaving-apple-improved-compatibility-wi... > But while you can install many apps on /e/OS, we know that some apps are not working properly today: banking apps or games for example, and this has been painful for many of you. > Our team has been hard at work to improve app compatibility in the last few months, and we will be rolling out improved app compatibility with the 0.23…

Thanks; I'll definitely have to give that a try. And I'm quite curious what workaround they came up with.

I'm curious too! I wonder if they're using some of Android's built-in "profile" security features somehow, a la https://www.makeuseof.com/shelter-sandbox-android-apps/
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