What is triald and why is it taking so much disk space?

Post by trelane » Thu, Mar 31, 2022, 10:19 PM UTC

brimble wrote: post #254

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I've been using "linux on the desktop" exclusively for the last two decades and it's always curious to me when people complain about having to be a techno wizard to operate it because for at least the last 10 years I've pretty much had to configure nothing and everything from fancy displays to networked printers has worked without a hitch. I can honestly say that I'm not even sure where I would look to configure or t…

My trajectory was ~2000-2011 as a heavy Linux-on-the-desktop user (and Windows, for gaming), but quickly converted to Mac when was issued one at work after that, and that's where I've stayed ever since. I didn't even realize how much time I was wasting and how used I'd gotten to working around shitty, broken stuff, mostly by just avoiding doing things. Once I saw what life was like on the other side, it was a no-brai…

Post by trelane » Thu, Mar 31, 2022, 10:22 PM UTC

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It's not the battery life that's the issue on Laptops these days, as it is typically better than windows. The biggest issue is getting all the hardware supported out of the box. For example, there is a certain amount of mucking about you have to do to get any off the shelf laptop running Linux. On rare occasion system updates change something that the laptop doesn't like, hunting down that change can become tedious.

The solution for that is easy: don't buy the absolute-latest-generation of any hardware. I've owned Samsung laptops, HP laptops, Thinkpads. I've built my own work desktops. I've never had any issues, as long as the hardware is ~6 months out on the market. That's about the time it takes for linux devs to catch up with companies that focus on windows drivers.

Post by mlyle » Thu, Mar 31, 2022, 10:27 PM UTC

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> It is specifically about how little it takes for people to give away their freedoms. You frame it that way -- most people don't. I like having a MacOS computer. Lots of daily things work better. Including battery life. Linux still exists and I still use it elsewhere. If Apple turns evil, I can move to having a Linux laptop again and just be slightly more miserable.

> If Apple turns evil It is not a matter of "turning evil". They are already do "evil" things. It's just that you don't care because it doesn't affect you personally or the things that you consume from them.

Post by c22 » Thu, Mar 31, 2022, 11:11 PM UTC

ricardobeat wrote: post #261

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I've been using "linux on the desktop" exclusively for the last two decades and it's always curious to me when people complain about having to be a techno wizard to operate it because for at least the last 10 years I've pretty much had to configure nothing and everything from fancy displays to networked printers has worked without a hitch. I can honestly say that I'm not even sure where I would look to configure or t…

> having to be a techno wizard > while I was building that first linux pc > for every computer I've bought or built since then > bit of research on driver compatibility This is pretty self explanatory. Your expectation of what basic computer skills should be is way too high.

Post by AussieWog93 » Fri, Apr 01, 2022, 12:18 AM UTC

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Nope, instead you have to apply guesswork to figure out why an apt-get call accidentally uninstalled your desktop environment. :P

I'm confused. `apt-get upgrade` doesn't remove packages. `apt-get dist-upgrade` tells you what packages it will remove and has you confirm that you want those packages removed before you proceed. https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-guide/ch2.en.html What guesswork is needed?