Namecheap: Russia Service Termination • Hacker News Board

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by me_me_mu_mu » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 11:49 PM UTC

axiosgunnar wrote: post #212

movedx wrote: post #194

Have they blocked China, as well? You know, because of all the human rights violations and (war) crimes there?

I despise communism as much as everyone, but at least China is (currently) not trying to violently expand its borders (a bit of posturing in the South China Sea is nothing compared to what is going on in Ukraine) and especially... it is not threatening to nuke everyone.

I know right? All they've done is just put a huge amount of people in concentration camps and silenced dissidents, while consolidating power in a one party state ruled by a dictator.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by calculatte » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 11:49 PM UTC

NamecheapCEO wrote: post #123

raxi wrote: post #109

But such moves only shows the unreliability of businesses that preach net neutrality and similar things and in fact discriminate based on ethnicity. So they show that Putin is right, that democracy and liberalism are dead, that Ukrainians are nazi, and rally people around him even more.

We've always had a policy that almost anything goes excluding human rights abuses and especially war crimes and supporting violence. Nothing changed here.

Cool. When will you ban US customers for their government's continual war crimes? https://truthout.org/articles/the-us-drops-an-average-of-46-...

Or are you just disenfranchising a population in order to gain virtue points?

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by VladmirPutin » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 11:49 PM UTC

Russian wrote: post #250

risyachka wrote: post #184

I will respond to this one. It's good that you tried to fight the regime. Clearly it wasn't enough. You live in society, not in the woods. The majority decides how all live - like in any other country. In your country majority decided not to overthrow dictatorship. As result, minority suffers. So here is your answer.

Most of people here has no any experience of fighting against even a soft authoritarian regime. You just don't have a clue how it looks like where the police officers beat you in the chamber in the night and you are screaming and nobody help you, they torture you putting a bottle in your anus and smashing your teeth. It's completely immoral to blame people they are fighting not enough, you don't know NOTHING about it…

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Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by whatshisface » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 11:49 PM UTC

femiagbabiaka wrote: post #185

I have to wonder what the bar for this sort of severe action is considering that so many companies seem to be taking these steps. If it is "country invades another country" or "human rights abuse happening perpetrated by $COUNTRY" then I think there's a long list of regimes that need to be added to the will not serve list.

Namecheap is to a large extent a Ukrainian company, so there's not a lot of inconsistency here, nor much threat for setting a precedent. (If country A invades country B, residents of country A can expect difficult circumstances doing business with vendors in country B.)

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by atlantas » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 11:50 PM UTC

concinds wrote: post #182

It may interest you to know that Namecheap, just a few days ago, banned a few domain names purely based on an ambiguous tweet that got 8 likes , that didn't even ask for those domains to be banned or cite any ToS violation. https://twitter.com/Namecheap/status/1489485337885921284 Namecheap then reverted that decision when they got ratioed (with no tweets supporting their decision). I've never heard of these domain na…

It's scary how many organizations are just straight up outsourcing their decision making to Twitter.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by hamaluik » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 11:50 PM UTC

I am frankly shocked and dismayed at the number of people deriding this decision. In a grey world this seems like such a black and white thing. Sure it may inconvenience a few, but on the other hand innocents are being slaughtered. All the weight of these complaints don't even begin to touch the scale when compared to literal children being murdered.

Besides all that, Namecheap is a private company and can do business with whomever they wish.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by ALittleLight » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 11:50 PM UTC

hereforphone wrote: post #134

NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

Would you give me a list of "wrong" things I shouldn't do, or "wrong" places I shouldn't live, in order to not have my service terminated in the future? I live in Turkey sometimes. Am I in danger of losing my Namecheap account if Erdoğan (the dictator) does something even more crazy than usual, in the future?

It seems the answer is clearly Yes, you are in danger of losing your account if Erdogan does something crazy. I'm confused why you would ask this question. Russians are being banned for the crazy actions of Putin, why wouldn't Turks be if their country engaged in similar actions.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by Retric » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 11:50 PM UTC

alinaish wrote: post #231

risyachka wrote: post #184

I will respond to this one. It's good that you tried to fight the regime. Clearly it wasn't enough. You live in society, not in the woods. The majority decides how all live - like in any other country. In your country majority decided not to overthrow dictatorship. As result, minority suffers. So here is your answer.

So from your perspective it is ok to generalize and discriminate the minority? Sorry, but how are you better than Putin then?

Bystanders living in Russia are defacto supporting the regime by paying taxes, working, buying goods, etc.

Leaving isn’t free, but it’s much safer than protesting inside Russia.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by ytch » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 11:50 PM UTC

ainar-g wrote: post #78

NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

> We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. Putin has announced recently that cross-border payments in USD and EUR are to be blocked. Which means that most Russians affected by this won't be able to pay for a registrar outside of Russia. People here have mentioned transferring their domain names to NIC.RU, the state-owned registrar. Which means that Putin actually receives more money because of th…

> NIC.RU, the state-owned registrar.

But without SWIFT, will they have trouble to pay the ICANN fee?

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by Jabbles » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 11:50 PM UTC

nomel wrote: post #171

effnamecheap wrote: post #23

Simply an American, and I’ll be moving my dozen domains off of Namecheap. Attacking random Russians for something you don’t like of their leader is as dumb as post-9/11 Sikh bashing or interning German/Italian/Japanese after Pearl Harbor and the war declaration. Way to make a shit situation worse.

It seems it would be completely logical to also boycott the European countries that are actively funding the Russian government with the billions of dollars that are given directly to the state, through the state owned Russian gas companies. If I'm reading this right, ~582bn~ 7bn USD (thanks Jabbles!) for just a few month last year: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/13/gazprom-hits-r... I think it makes sens…

You are not reading that right: 582bn rubles, probably $7B before the recent crash.