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Open up my corporate laptop and login with my smart card and username/pass combo, then I can just log into any Linux machine I have authorization (group permissions) to. Been doing it this way for over a decade at this rate.
It's like all of these password manager tools were created by people who've never seen nor used these existing solutions.
I have used 1pass for years. I think I bought my lifetime license sometime in 2014? I loved it and even advocated for our 2000+ company to adopt it back in 2018. I would say in the past 2-3 years it has slowly become an absolute nightmare. I do not recommend it to anyone anymore. They have somehow screwed up the very basic functionality of filling in passwords on any browser I try. They continue to shift features aro…
I have found the user experience is much worse in windows than it is in macOS. Same browsers on both.
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My point is that, in 2022, the overwhelming majority of people do have the necessary resources required to run Electron apps on their laptops and desktops. My view is backed up by the fact that people do exactly this, with great success. The complaint about memory is not reflective of the typical user experience.
The fact that multiple people here are telling you that they have experienced RAM shortages and swapping due to excessive consumption speaks for itself.
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On each and every point your view is only true in very isolated and niche situations, while simultaneously begging the question that you’ve run out of memory in the first place. Linux is not good for desktop environments for exactly the reasons you outline here (and many more). It’s not Electron’s fault you’ve used the wrong tool for your desktop OS.
It's very antisocial to tell people they're using the wrong tools. In today's world, it's becoming no longer sustainable to respond to wasted resources by asking the world to purchase more resources (resulting in even more waste in the long term) to accommodate it. Conservation is becoming increasingly important.
And you're using the words "wasted" wrong, assuming you're referring to the memory footprint of Electron. Electron uses memory to solve a compatibility problem, that's not wasted at all.
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As one datapoint: I’ve used 1P for 11+ years, have over 1200 items in it, and I’ve literally never lamented the lack of multiline fields.
While I agree about the specific ask for multiline support (and the decade plus hourly usage of 1p), it's abundantly clear that things are slipping with regards to the core product. For awhile there were no public links to any downloadable desktop apps for macOS while they pushed web + subs + and the MAS version. These days I'm just delighted when 1password doesn't open a totally different browser when invoked from t…
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The fact that multiple people here are telling you that they have experienced RAM shortages and swapping due to excessive consumption speaks for itself.
The fact that you think a small handful of anecdotes is a meaningful or representative sample size speaks for itself.
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It's very antisocial to tell people they're using the wrong tools. In today's world, it's becoming no longer sustainable to respond to wasted resources by asking the world to purchase more resources (resulting in even more waste in the long term) to accommodate it. Conservation is becoming increasingly important.
Is it antisocial to tell someone they're being antisocial? And you're using the words "wasted" wrong, assuming you're referring to the memory footprint of Electron. Electron uses memory to solve a compatibility problem, that's not wasted at all.
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The fact that you think a small handful of anecdotes is a meaningful or representative sample size speaks for itself.
Then please show us the data that backs you up.
If you're actually curious, you can figure it out for yourself.
I've been a huge fan of 1Password for almost ten years now, recommending it to friends and family, but like some of the comments mentioned it feels like the product is trying to move upmarket while dropping support for core features. I've bought their license a couple times as the versions are updated, but they no longer support licenses and only monthly subscriptions. Fine.. I'm happy to pay that to get a great prod…
Your vault is only ever decrypted on the client side, and the 1password service only ever stores/syncs the encrypted vault. This is why if you lose access to your secret key, your vault can never be decrypted, even by 1password - your secret key is only ever stored on your local device and never by 1password, not even a hash of it.
1password has a great white-paper on their security model if you're interested, and it's verified by 3rd party auditors.
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Then please show us the data that backs you up.
No, you've been hostile and non-cooperative this whole time, my allocation for time spent with people like that is more or less up. If you're actually curious, you can figure it out for yourself.