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What are your company's anti-values?

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Re: What are your company's anti-values?

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Disclaimer: I work for a small e-commerce firm named after a large river, opinions are my own. Writing in response since the company I work at is one whose values is quoted in the article. My initial approach to the values was a similar "Who cares, these are bland corporatese" one. It wasn't until a 10+ year senior engineer on my team discussed the trade-offs between the values in an architecture meeting that I reall…

Thank you for raising the point about contradictions in values. I tried to work it into the original blog post, but I felt like it detracted from my main point.

I previously felt these contradictions are problematic because they make it harder to use values for prioritisation. It's a good point you make about different values being applicable in different contexts. I wonder whether the context can be incorporated into the value?

For example "Bias for action when the cost of failure is low". In an oncall incident, restarting a stateless service is worth trying even before the problem is understood in depth, because risk of failure is low. There are potential actions in an oncall incident that could quite easily make things much worse - then it's probably worth diving deeper before taking action.

It might not be pithy enough for the value itself, but I think it's at least adding this kind of context to the subtext like Amazon have done in the page you linked to.

Re: What are your company's anti-values?

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I don't see any clear meaning to the term "anti-value" in this article. It seems to imply that a "value" means "more". It does not. "Frugality" is a value of that is a behaviour deemed important to follow, it's not an "anti-value" (whatever that might mean). Similarly, "move fast, break things" means you value action and risk-taking. I was expecting "anti-value" to mean a behaviour deemed negative and to be avoided.

I think the other responses have explained the definition I had in mind for "anti-value".

"Frugality" is a bit less explicit than "move fast _and break things_. I think the reason it could be considered an anti-value is because it implies obvious _costs_. For example it can cost time in "shopping around", or it could mean that you miss out on opportunities - for example missing out on a great employee because you pay below market rate.

Re: What are your company's anti-values?

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post #17

Disclaimer: I work for a small e-commerce firm named after a large river, opinions are my own. Writing in response since the company I work at is one whose values is quoted in the article. My initial approach to the values was a similar "Who cares, these are bland corporatese" one. It wasn't until a 10+ year senior engineer on my team discussed the trade-offs between the values in an architecture meeting that I reall…

Thank you for raising the point about contradictions in values. I tried to work it into the original blog post, but I felt like it detracted from my main point. I previously felt these contradictions are problematic because they make it harder to use values for prioritisation. It's a good point you make about different values being applicable in different contexts. I wonder whether the context can be incorporated int…

I like this suggestion from another sub-thread:

> bias for action when it's a reversible decision

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30376853

Re: What are your company's anti-values?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If a slide deck says “management will attempt to throw you under the bus: be prepared and keep a paper trail”, that's both honest, and exhibiting dishonest toxicity. Whether you're toxic and whether you're honest about the toxicity are orthogonal.

What's an example relevant to the slide?

“Most of this slide deck is lies. A survey shows that 97% of our employees think our company culture is improving, and 86% believe that this slide deck will be true in 6 months' time.”
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