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Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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This sort of discussion never goes well, but using GoFundMe to finance occupations, especially across national borders , is an incredibly dangerous game. If a GoFundMe to harrass and harangue Ron DeSantis -- to effectively sponsor people to park outside his home and blast horns, among other things -- would he be okay with that? How about if Canadians paid millions for people to park on US interstates? Is that okay? T…

Remember when GoFundMe was actually encouraging people to donate on Twitter to CHAZ/CHOP in Seattle? During a pandemic when most states still had mask mandates?

I do, and GoFundMe is a bunch of partisan hypocrites. Let me quote Elon: Professional Thieves.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Apparently Elon Musk also got involved and called GoFundMe “professional thieves”, because they were going to redirect donations intended for Canadian protesters to other (likely left leaning) causes: https://nypost.com/2022/02/05/elon-musk-gofundme-professiona... He also called out their double standard for claiming to not support protests that aren’t peaceful after they funded so many violent riots and illegal acti…

This narrative is bullshit. GFM was gonna redirect the funds to charities chosen by the main organization behind the GFM

This is just a rightwing talking point

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Apparently Elon Musk also got involved and called GoFundMe “professional thieves”, because they were going to redirect donations intended for Canadian protesters to other (likely left leaning) causes: https://nypost.com/2022/02/05/elon-musk-gofundme-professiona... He also called out their double standard for claiming to not support protests that aren’t peaceful after they funded so many violent riots and illegal acti…

Go fund me deserves all the flak they receive. Redirecting donations intended for one cause to causes of their choosing is fraudulent. If they have an issue with a cause, which should be stipulated in their ToCs up front and not subject to inflight changes, then refund all donors to the best of their ability.

Before GFM decided to directly refund everyone, their plan was to redirect any non-refunded funds to charities of the choosing of the organizers of the GFM. The only way they would go to left-leaning charities would have been if the organizers of the GFM were left-leaning and chose that

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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"This is entirely outside of the mission of GoFundMe." https://twitter.com/gofundme/status/1278759152492220416 It is not if they agree with what is happening. They are fine with occupying if they back the cause.

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The tweet literally says it is for CHOP.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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It’s a private company, it absolutely does not need to be neutral. They can choose any side they want. If you don’t like it, don’t use their platform. Gosh, when did the notion of private firms got so mixed up with so-called political neutrality? Are people this naïve?

> It’s a private company, it absolutely does not need to be neutral. Then state that they're not neutral on the TOS and don't accept funds. They accepted funds and then tried to straight up steal them.

Yeah I'm flabbergasted that any company feels so comfortable and relaxed with stealing 9 million dollars in donations.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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GoFundMe should be political neutral, but it openly turns left. I recommend a long post explaining this phenomenon: https://richardhanania.substack.com/p/why-is-everything-libe...

Vaccines didn't used to be political.

People didn't used to disagree with the politics.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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It's a protest not an occupation

It's obviously a peaceful protest*. The word "occupation" here is already spin from the side that wants to shut it down and is trying to build a case for doing so. Peaceful protest involves physically assembling and making noise. That is no doubt unpleasant both for those who disagree with the protestors and those who live in the neighborhood, but the right to do this in public is fundamental and vital in democratic…

It is literally, by every definition, an occupation.

People came in and brought homes with them (sleeper cabs, RVs, etc). Now they have set up permanent structures such as kitchens and other facilities (today they brought in a sauna), and have been stating repeatedly that they are in for the long haul.

There is a reason that's called an occupation. A protest is normally a discomfort for the protester. Enduring the elements. Going without. But waving a flag and chanting slogans that convey a message. Here we have a bunch of people in transport trucks blasting their horn 24/7.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Public health “experts” have done very little to quell fearful vaccinated people. In my opinion some of the worst anti-vaxx propaganda comes right from these health departments. If you are vaccinated, you are done with the pandemic. Morally, ethically, and practically. You should be allowed to return to actual, pre-pandemic normal. End of story.

Even if you are vaccinated you can still get sick. The chances are reduced, but you can still end up in hospital, you could still die. If enough people still get sick at once there could still be a collapse in a local health system due to overloading. Given the uncertainty with new variations of COVID isn't it better to err on the side of caution and try to protect both the health systems and as many people at once?

All of that was true with the flu and vaccinated people are not any more at risk from covid than flu. Why the permanent change?

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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> "Prime Minister has called the protesters racists and misogynists." > He didn't. This is absurd. https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1488660359422648320... He did. Also said it a bunch of times in person.

No, he didn't. A unanimous declaration by members of parliament (incredibly rare) denounced events happening in the shroud of the protests. And they are really happening! If someone denounces looting at a BLM protest -- also something that happened -- does that mean every BLM protester is a looter? That is absurd.

> If someone denounces looting at a BLM protest -- also something that happened -- does that mean every BLM protester is a looter? That is absurd.

Of course not. Just like the presence of extremists at a rally doesn't mean everyone's an extremist. If you've followed Trudeau at all through these events, he's constantly painted all protesters as extremists...

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