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Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by iancmceachern »

donmcronald wrote: post #145
MBCook wrote: post #48

Spotify has played this perfectly. First they spent $100m on a very controversial figure, just to get an exclusive contract. When he acted controversially they stood up for him, making plenty of people mad and getting others to disassociate themselves from Spotify (Young, Mitchell). Wouldn’t surprise me if they were having some quiet issues with sponsors/ads. Now they seem to be removing episodes, but reportedly not…

I was absolutely stunned when Spotify did the Joe Rogan deal. You could already tell at that point that he was a divisive kind of person and I just couldn't understand why anyone would want that headache. I was already wondering how YouTube was going to deal with him and even joked to people I knew that the staff at YouTube were probably high fiving each other and planning a big party as soon as they heard the news.

And more than that, like Howard Stern before, some of his popularity comes from that edginess. So it's both the thing people came for, and the thing others are trying to get away from.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by friendlydog »

Ah, the old appeasement trap. The censormongers who demanded their collection leave Spotify aren't going to come back now that Spotify has caved. And the people who wanted Spotify to have Joe are going to be pissed off and leave. This is a no win scenario now for Spotify. I have never listened to old Joe, but I can tell you I have paid Spotify for the last time. My small contribution doesn't mean anything in the context of their user counts, but if they were going to fold they should have done it immediately so they didn't lose the first half of content.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by d110af5ccf »

bachmeier wrote: post #238

Predictably, people break out the C-word. Every business decides what they sell and what they don't. Do they also complain about censorship and shout at the manager of a shoe store for not selling books? Spotify decided they don't want to sell those episodes of JR. That's not censorship, it's business, and it's very different than if it's done by the government.

> That's not censorship, it's business

No, it most certainly is censorship. It is also business. Those two things aren't mutually exclusive. I'd also note that it is completely legal, but that I (personally) think that such practices are harmful.

> shout at the manager of a shoe store for not selling books?

A shoe store? That's not a good analogy. I wouldn't complain that Spotify doesn't offer downloads of popular software, would I?

Would people complain if Barnes & Noble suddenly pulled a number of "controversial" books from their shelves after public outcry?

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by MPSimmons »

JPKab wrote: post #268
dtemp wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I heard of JRE many years ago, I said to myself, "do I care to hear the endless opinions of the former host of Fear Factor? Nope." And that was that, never even decided to give it a try with so much other potential content available.

It's the guests. He's like Oprah in her peak: He's disarming, humble, and has a knack for getting even the stiffest guests to open up. And some of the most fascinating guests are people you've never heard of.

If Oprah were _incredibly_ misinformed about the basic way the world works.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by khana »

donmcronald wrote: post #145
MBCook wrote: post #48

Spotify has played this perfectly. First they spent $100m on a very controversial figure, just to get an exclusive contract. When he acted controversially they stood up for him, making plenty of people mad and getting others to disassociate themselves from Spotify (Young, Mitchell). Wouldn’t surprise me if they were having some quiet issues with sponsors/ads. Now they seem to be removing episodes, but reportedly not…

I was absolutely stunned when Spotify did the Joe Rogan deal. You could already tell at that point that he was a divisive kind of person and I just couldn't understand why anyone would want that headache. I was already wondering how YouTube was going to deal with him and even joked to people I knew that the staff at YouTube were probably high fiving each other and planning a big party as soon as they heard the news.

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Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by JPKab »

jcims wrote: post #250

I grew up around evangelical Christians. The negative reaction to Rogan *feels* exactly like the clucking and tutting about 'dangerous ideas' that I've heard from the more cellophane elements of that crew.

I grew up same as you, and you took the words out of my mouth.

People who grew up secular are completely unaware of how Southern Baptist in style all of this canceling and moralizing is. Like the church ladies, they turn moralizing into a competitive sport, and everyone loses.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by dehrmann »

DantesKite wrote: post #187

I'm curious if he said the n-word in any of the episodes. The Rock just announced on Twitter some news about finding out just how much Joe Rogan used that slur. News spreads fast in Hollywood circles. Maybe Spotify is trying to get ahead of the curve before any more controversies break out.

That would get awkward fast because of all the songs using that word.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by symlinkk »

bachmeier wrote: post #238

Predictably, people break out the C-word. Every business decides what they sell and what they don't. Do they also complain about censorship and shout at the manager of a shoe store for not selling books? Spotify decided they don't want to sell those episodes of JR. That's not censorship, it's business, and it's very different than if it's done by the government.

Why do you think censorship only applies when governments do it

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by symlinkk »

DantesKite wrote: post #187

I'm curious if he said the n-word in any of the episodes. The Rock just announced on Twitter some news about finding out just how much Joe Rogan used that slur. News spreads fast in Hollywood circles. Maybe Spotify is trying to get ahead of the curve before any more controversies break out.

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