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But those would be in random cars around you, which are constantly moving. How could those help retrieving your own location on a map?
If there is a car travelling the same direction as you but a bit to the right, then you are not in the rightmost lane.
Google Maps now requires WiFi scanning to use navigation
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I like Organic Maps, just hoping for Android auto support.
Are there ANY alternatives to the live traffic data that Google Maps or Waze collect and provide? I know how to get around but I want to make sure that I don't get stuck on the highway. I have been looking for an alternative for many years.
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>I find no joy in saying it, but I bet that would get you some unwelcome attention - trademark infringement, defamation, tortious interference - from one of those companies. :( While that's a wonderfully dystopian view, I'd expect that wouldn't happen unless you attempted to use such SSIDs in a commercial context. for your "wager" to be successful, I should expect to be sued over saying stuff like "Old McDonald had a…
What part of "likely to cause confusion, deception, or mistake about the source of the goods and/or services" isn't clear to you? McDonalds and Starbucks both provide wi-fi as an enticement for their customers not as a public service. Confusing people as to the origin of the "McDonalds WiFi" SSID pretty clearly fits within that definition. Then there's the "tortious interference" angle, and the fact that they don't h…
That's a ridiculous statement on its face.
I didn't realize that I could receive my hamburger or cup of coffee via WiFi.
Certainly, if I surreptitiously set up a WiFi network next to an establishment providing WiFi with an SSID that purports to be from that establishment, there's definitely a problem.
But trademark infringement probably isn't even in the top five in the list of problematic issues.
But GP wasn't even suggesting something like that. Rather, he was suggesting using such SSIDs in unlikely places, in a likely futile gesture, to confound Google's douchebaggery.
As such, I wholeheartedly disagree with you.
Not about frivolous lawsuits, they are a pox on society.
Rather, I disagree that a poor choice of WiFi SSIDs in the context of GPs example (creating such SSIDs in one's moving car to confound Google) could result in a lawsuit from the likes of Starbuck's or McDonald's.
I'd go even further and say that doing so from a stationary site (e.g., one's home), even if that site is in relatively close proximity to such a retail establishment, isn't very likely either.
In fact, a cursory search[0] doesn't show any trademark litigation associated with using SSIDs. The first result is, in fact, your post, with no other relevant results.
[0] https://www.google.com/search?q=SSID+trademark+infringement
Edit: Fixed typo.
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#276Learn about "dooh" and POI conversion etc, and you will figure out why google need your phone to be wifi-scanning all the time.
It needs to find a store wifi beacon that pays them if they "convert" you, i.e. enter the store after seeing an ad to enter the store.
Sansung and apple are into this too. It's all part of "providing services in your best interest that you have signed for" in gdpr and ccpa language.
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Can't believe I'm on this side of the debate, but at what point are we asking too much for free? Google provide Maps for free to an incredible accuracy and value. Unlike Apple, the user is welcome to use any other app, and yet chooses to use Google Maps. You could maybe argue that Google Maps is part of a package you bought the phone for, but realistically I think the solution is Google are just open about the use of…
Google Maps doesn't make money using wifi data. It makes money the way it always does: through ads [0,1]. [0]: https://support.google.com/google-ads/answer/7040605?hl=en [1]: https://ads.google.com/hotels/
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If there is a car travelling the same direction as you but a bit to the right, then you are not in the rightmost lane.
How would the phone know the wifi signal is coming from your right?
Or if gps errors are correlated between phones.
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Speaking of signatures, google play now requires developers to submit the private keys we used to sign apps with. Without submitting a key I can't issue updates. Out of protest I stopped pushing updates to apps via Google Play.
Yes, that is fairly concerning. The last news I had about this was that using Google Play Signing (their key escrow and app signing service) was only mandatory for new apps as of August 2021. Not sure if that has changed recently. But everyone can see it coming a mile away, that Google will only continue tightening that grip. To be honest, I understand the potentially good intentions behind Google's push to manage ke…
I wonder if there's an internal fight between the Tools and Play teams, because all of this should be possible via the Gradle plugin, but understandably the Play team probably wouldn't see high adoption of APK splits if it required configuration via the morass of crap that is Gradle.
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If your data is worth that little, which it is, then yeah let's make it illegal for companies to coerce people into giving it up with boilerplate contracts. The impact is too high and the benefit too low. This is not a slippery slope toward outlawing anything you could possibly sell.
I’ve been giving away "my data" for free stuff since the beginning of the Internet. Still waiting breathlessly for that high impact.