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Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by mdoms » Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 5:15 PM UTC

vmception wrote: post #128

999900000999 wrote: post #106

By far the best part is they didn't automatically cancel his subscription. What a horrible company, if you've banned my account that's fine but cancel the subscription and refund my money. If y'all haven't looked at it yet, read up on the FCC's filing against Match. They knowingly prompt up tons of fake profiles, to get you engaged. Horrifically this has lead to romance scams being the number one source of fraud in t…

> When I actually meet someone, It was always someone who is in their mid-20s to 30s without a job. In real life, everyone I've gone out with has had a decent job, due to another scary experience I don't go out with people who aren't working. Overfitting is a modeling error in statistics that occurs when a function is too closely aligned to a limited set of data points. ... Thus, attempting to make the model conform…

Let people have personal experiences.

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by sirwhinesalot » Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 5:16 PM UTC

inglor_cz wrote: post #250

endofreach wrote: post #240

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The monopoly on dating is definitely not tinder… it is: real life.

I wonder. Standards might have changed for the younger population, necessary flirting skills in person are no longer maintained as widely as they used to. Generally, things that are challenging tend to be taken over by technology. It is not that different from how people forgot to orient themselves in a city without navigational apps. Or how they no longer know how to, say, make butter (unlike in 1900).

It's not just that, those flirting skills are not safe to use anymore. You can get an harassment charge for touching someone in the arm these days (happened to some lonely autistic kid). Having confirmation of mutual attraction first makes things both easier and safer.

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by amima » Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 5:20 PM UTC

False positives are indeed a major problem with bigtech. Just got into the situation myself when I was traveling to France and wanted to order some food with Deliveroo. Their antifraud systems banned me without any option to prove my legitimacy. Needless to say I just normally wanted to order something to eat, and I later used Uber Eats without any problems. Permanent ban without procedure to correct antifraud false positive (most likely due to my bank card issued outside of France).

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by wayoutthere » Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 5:21 PM UTC

watwut wrote: post #176

jonnybgood wrote: post #135

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Why is that rule unfortunate? Why would someone date or hookup with someone they're not physically attracted to?

I guess because in real life, even if you dont look super attractive, you can still charm partners by the way you talk and act. You can be funny, come across as trustworthy etc. You can not do that on tinder.

Yes, this. If you’re trying to find a partner on a platform where matches are determined solely by physical attraction, you’re gonna have a hard time if you’re not physically attractive. Know what Tinder is, and be self-aware enough to know if it’s not for you.

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by sebastianconcpt » Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 5:23 PM UTC

wayoutthere wrote: post #268

sebastianconcpt wrote: post #180

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It's funny how raw red pill truths get downvoted here. Some seem to prefer to send technical brutal honesty about the current state of sexual market under the rug.

Maybe thinking about sexuality as a market is your first problem. If you’re not physically attractive, just don’t use Tinder; it’s not the only way to find someone to date. Shouldn’t be a surprise that someone who blames “women” as a whole for his problems would have a hard time meeting women. And as a corollary, I’ve dated super hot guys before and frankly a lot of them have a hard time with relationships because it…

I'm not asking anyone about my case not seeking advice as I do great already in both online and offline. You seem in a hurry to assume other people's position and problems and providing unrequested advice that only validate your assumptions. Have you ever observed that in yourself?

Regarding to that corollary, you're assuming top guys even want to invest in relationships in the first place. Not the case of many I know. The strategy is more like: enjoy the party until one of the girls is so mindblowing feminine and submissive and good person that is worth giving a chance to some investing.

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by guerrilla » Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 5:24 PM UTC

ProjectArcturis wrote: post #231

guerrilla wrote: post #166

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This kind of thing is what they're talking about. > It was determined that the bottom 80% of men (in terms of attractiveness) are competing for the bottom 22% of women and the top 78% of women are competing for the top 20% of men [1]. https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/tinder-experiments-ii-g...

So, this guy set up a fake profile and interviewed women who matched with him, without disclosing he was doing research? Ethics aside, he doesn't discuss his methodology at all. How did these interviews turn into a Gini curve? How could they, without some heroic statistical assumptions?

It's been studied a lot, I just threw that up as example since it was posted here a couple of days ago. Here's one of OKCupid's own studies [1]. You can search for others that confirm the same thing over and over again.

1. https://www.gwern.net/docs/psychology/okcupid/yourlooksandyo...

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by amima » Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 5:25 PM UTC

amima wrote: post #273

False positives are indeed a major problem with bigtech. Just got into the situation myself when I was traveling to France and wanted to order some food with Deliveroo. Their antifraud systems banned me without any option to prove my legitimacy. Needless to say I just normally wanted to order something to eat, and I later used Uber Eats without any problems. Permanent ban without procedure to correct antifraud false…

Also, worth mentioning that I was banned after I have contacted the support because my orders were being rejected (this was my initial problem and the reason I contacted the support). It was the support team who banned me. This is a problem of its own: legitimate users should not be discouraged to contact the support.

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by vmception » Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 5:45 PM UTC

mdoms wrote: post #271

vmception wrote: post #128

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> When I actually meet someone, It was always someone who is in their mid-20s to 30s without a job. In real life, everyone I've gone out with has had a decent job, due to another scary experience I don't go out with people who aren't working. Overfitting is a modeling error in statistics that occurs when a function is too closely aligned to a limited set of data points. ... Thus, attempting to make the model conform…

Let people have personal experiences.

*at the expense of screening against everyone else who happen to slightly overlap in the venn diagram at that point in time

thats the absurdity

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by juancn » Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 5:45 PM UTC

29083011397778 wrote: post #194

savant_penguin wrote: post #66

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If you vpn to Korea would you get an answer?

Considering Tinder rather explicitly checks your location to find people around you? I'd assume it wouldn't work, and might even lead to getting banned faster.

Root the phone and fake the location.

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by stjohnswarts » Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 5:46 PM UTC

vidarh wrote: post #242

jwong_ wrote: post #233

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Grandparent mentions IG, so assuming they created a business IG account.

The irony is last time I used Tinder it was clear they're totally unable or unwilling to deal with all the women using Tinder for "business".

That makes sense if in the USA since prostitution is illegal in 49 states.