I thought the whole point of AWS was that you could fail over to a different location?
Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again
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lol imagine if azure was just AWS in the backend
Is it bad that I can almost see that being a quick and dirty MVP to get out the door while you built your own cloud solution? Raises serious migration and cost issues, but... would be interesting.
I think for some targeted things there might well be "value added" services you could offer to transparently wrap AWS. E.g. a "write-through" S3 wrapper was something I was actually looking at because some clients when I was contracting were very reluctant to trust anything but AWS for durability but at the same time AWS bandwidth costs were so extortionate that renting our own servers from somewhere like Hetzner and then proxying writes both to a local disk and to S3 and serve up from local disk with a fallback to pull a fresh copy from S3 if missing broke even at a quite small number of terabytes transferred each month.
The nice part about something like that is that properly wrapped you can change your durable storage as needed, and can easily even selectively pick "cheaper but less trusted" options for less critical data. It also allows you to leverage AWS features to ride closer to the wire. E.g. to take another example than storage, I've used this to cut the cost of managed hosting by being to spill over onto EC2 instances in the past, allowing you to run at much higher utilisation rate than what you can safely on managed / colo / on-prem servers alone - as a result, ironically the ability to spill over onto EC2 makes EC2 far less competitive in terms of cost to actually run stuff on most of the time.
Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again
#273We are barbarians occupying a city built by an advanced civilization, marveling at the hot baths but know nothing about how their builders keep them running. One day, the baths will drain and anyone who remembers how to fill them up will have died.
More like, they will fill with blood and locusts.
At least you'll have something to eat.
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So long as you live in a city you are probably forgetting most of the ways to survive. I could not even try to discover which berries are edible without killing myself. However, I can teach advanced maths to a largish group of students without much trouble.
> I could not even try to discover which berries are edible without killing myself. Cluster berries, from raspberries to pineapples, are never poisonous. Avoid berries that resemble blueberries or currants unless you're able to identify the plant: we grew up with blueberries and know the leaves, but we avoid anything currant-like because we'd have no idea if they're actually, say, chokeberries. Avoid anything that lo…
Blueberries are easy, they have a star shaped "opening" on the bottom. Native Americans called them starberries. No other berry is blue and has that. It's the only berry I trust myself to eat while I'm hiking.
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So long as you live in a city you are probably forgetting most of the ways to survive. I could not even try to discover which berries are edible without killing myself. However, I can teach advanced maths to a largish group of students without much trouble.
> I could not even try to discover which berries are edible without killing myself. Eat a small amount and see if you get sick? Science in the wild...
Assume that you'll be in a group - some other members of which will be more optimistic than you.
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Satire. Every time Github went down multiple people post on HN saying "every since they were bought by Microsoft, ...". As annoying as those Rust evangelists on every single memory corruption bug.
> As annoying as those Rust evangelists on every single memory corruption bug. First of all, how dare you! Second, shoulda used rust ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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#277HOST THE GODDAMN STATUS PAGE ON AZURE FOR FUCKS SAKE. There is zero excuse for this shit. Be professional. Acknowledge reality. It is logically impossible to run your own status page. Trying to do so just wastes everyone else on the internet's time when you have an outage.
Isn't it on S3 or something? And a few years ago we had that whole S3 is down situation and the status page was also down? xD
No, just change it to a statically-rendered page on CloudFlare with all green lights. :-)
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how I passed my system architect interview!
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Many years ago I stood at the window of my comfortable apartment, watching wind and cold rain rage outside. I thought about my cave men ancestors who during such a storm if they needed water would have to go out and get it, getting themselves soaked. If I wanted water, the tap in the kitchen would give it to me, in a nice controlled fashion. If I did feel like having water rain down upon me, my shower would do that,…
Not to mention that when the power goes out, the illusion fades fairly quickly. Learned that lesson myself in the Texas snowstorm early this year.
Third world country here.
Commit and push often.
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But you could probably devise a scheme by which you feed all of your students an assortment of berries and figure out which ones are safe based on which students get sick or die.
You are close. You first rub the berry on your skin (or leaf, or whatever). Wait 24 hours to see if a rash develops. Then you taste it, wait another 24 hours. Then you eat one, and see if you get sick after another 24 hours. Now you can eat several, and build up from there. Yes, that is a lot of time to go hungry and testing just one item. And then you still don't know what actually gives you nutrition vs just not ki…
Alternatively, let the animals worry about all that and then just eat the animals.
Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again
#280We are barbarians occupying a city built by an advanced civilization, marveling at the hot baths but know nothing about how their builders keep them running. One day, the baths will drain and anyone who remembers how to fill them up will have died.
Many years ago I stood at the window of my comfortable apartment, watching wind and cold rain rage outside. I thought about my cave men ancestors who during such a storm if they needed water would have to go out and get it, getting themselves soaked. If I wanted water, the tap in the kitchen would give it to me, in a nice controlled fashion. If I did feel like having water rain down upon me, my shower would do that,…
> Then I realized that I don't know how to build the systems that I was relying on for my supposed superiority, or even how some of them work.
I used to have this joke(?) with my friends: remember Mark Twain's "A Connecticut Yankee in King's Arthur Court"? The titular Yankee basically upends the (faux) medieval society he gets transported to, "inventing" all sorts of technological miracles.
Well, I'm a software developer but don't come from an engineering background (I mean actual engineering, not programming). I don't even understand how electricity or the telephone work (I mean, old fashioned telephones, let alone current mobile networks). If I was transported to 2 or 3 centuries to the past, I wouldn't be able to explain modern technology to other people, let alone actually build it.
I sort of understand how steam machines work, and I could "invent" the printing press. I guess. But anything related to circuitry, electricity, chemistry, engineering of any sort, I wouldn't be able to even begin explaining them to King Arthur.
My introduction to the knights of the round table would go something like this:
"We are questing for the Holy Grail, oh noble stranger from a far away land! How can you help?"
"Depends, which version of Python are you running?"