Will PiHole(so?) be able to block ads before chrome can render them or will these Manifestv3 changes break pages from loading?
PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3
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Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3
#272Color me shocked. Why does anyone use Chrome anymore? Firefox is better in every way, and it isn’t tied to the biggest data harvester the world has ever known.
I've been using Firefox for more than 15 years, so I'm not a hater or anything like that. Maybe it's just a MacOS thing, but parts of Firefox are a mess and it has downsides compared to Chromium or Safari. - Javascript-heavy sites are often slower on Firefox for me. - On the security side of things (sandboxing, etc), Firefox often lags behind Chromium. - There's a site or two that don't work well. Sometimes it's the…
>- It doesn't handle different languages well. No in-page translation, no automatic language detection for text correction, etc.
This is what keeps me away. There are extension options on desktop but no solution for mobile.
Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3
#273*Off-topic:* I've experimented with a new layout in Firefox, and now I can't think of going back. I first installed Tree Style Tab. I then removed the tabs at the top of the window and added a permanent status bar to the bottom of the window using userChrome.css: https://i.imgur.com/PIONywj.png (edited to add, my userChrome.css: https://gist.github.com/anthonyclarka2/155c038de96e91894cbd4... ) (EDIT: I added some ext…
TST does look great. Not sure it's usable in my case:
- similar to what others mentioned, I'm running a browser at 50% width of fullscreen (27", 4K display). This is ideal for most websites: it's about as narrow as most websites would natively be. However, this means there's no horizontal space left to sacrifice.
- I've been hard at work eradicating non-standard/exotic tools/workflows/etc. from my life. Maintainers abandon software regularly and then you're left stranded, perhaps your entire workflow gets turned upside down. Good old regular tabs "just work" and do so everywhere. The more you customize your setup, the more you're stranded on foreign territory. There's value in just getting used to what's there by default, to a degree.
TST essentially turns the 1D tab row (let's call it list) into a nested structure. And that really is fantastic. However, I think I'd hope and wait for that to become mainstream and officially integrated and wide-spread, if ever, before relying on it. The usual, top-row tab bar with some 2-dimensional twist seems promising.
Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3
#274*Off-topic:* I've experimented with a new layout in Firefox, and now I can't think of going back. I first installed Tree Style Tab. I then removed the tabs at the top of the window and added a permanent status bar to the bottom of the window using userChrome.css: https://i.imgur.com/PIONywj.png (edited to add, my userChrome.css: https://gist.github.com/anthonyclarka2/155c038de96e91894cbd4... ) (EDIT: I added some ext…
Off topic question on off topic comment: HN, what are your thoughts on Sidebery? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sidebery/
I hacked treestyle to look similar,
how does it play with vimium?
Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3
#275Earlier quoted context omitted.
This depends on what profile you make the the default startup profile in the profile manager
Do you know if there is a way to be prompted each time?
You could find where in your desktop environment it decides which app to open, and replace "firefox" with "firefox --profilemanager".
Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3
#276Brave for life it is I guess.
Brave is not a good or secure browser, you can search here on HN for all the things they do wrong
Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3
#277Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If we want to make information available to as many people as possible, an ad-supported model is the way to do it There are alternatives, a good one I see used in Ptreon, the supporters get early access to content, the rest will get it a month later. Let me try find the pros and cons Cons: - you need first to find supporters, so for a while you need to work hard to get them - some supporters might feel entitled to…
I think Patreon is great for individual creators and other small scale operations, but I'm skeptical that it can generate enough revenue to sustain larger scale journalistic operations. Organizations like NPR have been attempting a user-contribution model since before the internet, and it works to an extent, but they still have to rely partially on (minimalistic) ads as well as government funding.
Sure. Patreon is not a solution for all, but isn't private media already "patronized" by billionaires ? And they use ads to make more money? And for smaller private media like my local radio, they will use local ads and some ads might be of interest to me, the issue most of us have with ads is not that the local car washing place put an ad on radio, but with Google or FB ads because they track you over the internet and profile you, so FB would have a profile for Bob like "middle income, single, straight man, naive, likes tech, likes watches, ...anxious,. insecure, depressive... this is a lot of data that honestly could be use for good but instead it is used to manipulate Bob to join different FB groups, to show Bob different ads for some shit that he would probably buy that is probably bad for him etc. On top of this tracking there is a ton of other JS code to try and ensure there is no bad actor that would try to inflate the numbers of clicks. If you would have some plain ads with text and non animated images then I think most poeple would be happy and not bother to hide the ad.
What I think it will happen is some countries will eventually make laws to make tracking opt-in, like the do not track flag in browsers , or at best for advertisers make the user chose at first launch the default for tracking setting
Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3
#278For all the claims that the sky is falling, I'd like to know which functionality is still missing in declarativeNetRequest. Extended rule limits, dynamic rules, and header modification have been added. What else is required for a functional adblocker? This reddit thread barely seems to understand the issue, never mind the technical deficiencies of the API.
I think this is missing one of the most important points. Even if Manifest v3 was able to provide everything content blockers need today, it would still be bad. Why? Because blocking ads and tracking is a never ending race and content blockers are continuously adding new mechanisms to detect and block ads/trackers.
Manifest v3 declarative APIs are a snapshot of what is good enough today (although not quiet yet…), but will very soon be out-dated. Manifest v2, given the huge flexibility provided by its APIs, is a much better platform for innovation and adaptation in this regard.
With manifest v2, browsers are a platform and allow extensions developers to innovate and build powerful new features (some of which were not imagined before, and sometimes end up being implemented by browsers later on). It’s good for users and it’s good for browser vendors. With manifest v3, Google decides that that the status quo today is good enough, forever, and we do not need new things in the future (or at least not unless they decide to implement them in Chrome themselves).
Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3
#279Good. Maybe some people will drop Chrome now.
Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3
#280*Off-topic:* I've experimented with a new layout in Firefox, and now I can't think of going back. I first installed Tree Style Tab. I then removed the tabs at the top of the window and added a permanent status bar to the bottom of the window using userChrome.css: https://i.imgur.com/PIONywj.png (edited to add, my userChrome.css: https://gist.github.com/anthonyclarka2/155c038de96e91894cbd4... ) (EDIT: I added some ext…
Why would it need to be a fork?
It would just need a (regular to get security fixes) rebuild with an extra patch applied. Something that Linux distributions do all the time for Chromium.
The question is just who could maintain the extra patch.