Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's telling is the contrast in covid vaccination rates between nurses vs doctors. The vast majority of doctors get themselves vaccinated, whereas a large portion of nurses only get vaccinated as needed legally.
That does say… something. I’m just not sure what.
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#272Wow... I thought it was just tinfoil hat types that were avoiding this vaccine because they were afraid Bill Gates was using it to implant a tracking chip inside them. But if healthcare workers - who actually know what's in this thing - are so vaccine-hesitant that the government has to mandate it to them, I'm suddenly worried whether or not I should think twice about getting a booster (or worse, giving it to my chil…
I don't know if you're being disingenuous, but health care workers is a very wide group of people; most probably have absolutely no idea about 'whats in this thing', and in my experience most doctors are vaccinated --- it's hospital staff that aren't.
So that's not the case with all doctors.
Then again, I'm fit, healthy, great diet, low stress, eat well, lots of sunlight. Covid poses less risk to me than driving, my kids it doesn't rise to the level of conscious thought.
Covid's over here.
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#273Vaccines should not be a personal freedom choice. They are a life saving invention, where did we go as a society that this is suddenly up for debate? Did people forget that we eradicated Polio, Tetanus, Hepatitis etc? Where does this sudden influx of people come from that are opposed to this absolute incredible work of science?
I don't do personal attacks but in your case I'll make an exception: you are a fucking psychopath if you think it's ok to tell people to get a jag for something that is killing literally no one right now!
We're at around 100 deaths per day right now in the UK [0] and those stats don't actually tell you if they died FROM covid or merely had covid 28 days earlier when they died (massive difference!)... completely hides the real data.
In addition, there are on average 450 deaths per day from cancer [1] so where is the big gov. push to eradicate that?
Here are the overall death stats in the UK [2]. COVID is a tiny fraction of it.
[0] - https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=over... [1] - https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/health-professional/cancer-... [2] - https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsde...
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#274Earlier quoted context omitted.
Except that the role of the CMS, as established by congress, is to set the guidelines of care and standards of participation for providers who opt to accept Medicare and Medicaid patients. They set rules for everything from how many hospitals can be owned by a single entity, to what sorts of qualifications are required for hospital administrators, to what types of medical orders are allowed to be given to patients. T…
If that's true, how come several federal judges have come to the opposite conclusion in their rulings?
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#275What are the odds a healthcare worker hasn’t been repeatedly exposed to Covid by this point?
Even without vaccines, that means nearly half of Americans already have natural immunity which is vastly superior to vaccine immunity.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burd...
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#276Earlier quoted context omitted.
Rejecting a compulsory measure not “anti-science,” and using that term in that manner displays a dogmatism that is decidedly unscientific. It is quite coherent to accept the consensus epidemiological realities of COVID, the efficacy and safety of the vaccines, and simultaneously disagree with compulsory measures to enforce treatment.
Agreed but in this specific context the issue concerns healthcare workers. Vaccines are mandatory in the army for obvious reasons, ones that are even more relevant for healthcare workers.
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#278Earlier quoted context omitted.
Greater good of society out weighs people's individual rights. These are basic constitutional tenets. Why you can't yell fire in a crowded theater even though you have the right to free speech. Why the SCOTUS has ruled vaccine mandates are constitutional.
Schenk was overturned because it was a bad decision. In general, “fire in a crowded theater” is my heuristic for “this person doesn’t know what they’re talking about”. This is the top Google result for “fire in a crowded theater”: https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/11/its-tim...
Re: Courts block two Biden administration Covid vaccine mandates
#279What are the odds a healthcare worker hasn’t been repeatedly exposed to Covid by this point?
Re: Courts block two Biden administration Covid vaccine mandates
#280Brilliant and timely decision. Good luck with Omicron, US.
Aren't the Omicron symptoms relatively mild?
If you're not vaccinated or have natural immunity, there's likely zero increased reason for personal concern.