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Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)
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Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)
#272No mention of the page-view counter? Remember those, we'd put the message "just a counter, don't click" beneath them.
Oh yeah, had one of those on my neopets shop along with a MIDI of Thank You by Dido.
Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)
#273Wow. That took me back. All those things, every day. And table layouts of course. And let's not forget slicing images, and slapping those into tables too. If I remember rightly, Photoshop had an "export to slices" thing built in. Amazing. Loved it. And of course one of the biggest issues with today's web: you can't just view source and copy paste. You're in the land of chasing back up CSS files, js libraries, or find…
I used to build entire sites in photoshop. It produced horrendous mark-up, but streamlined the whole design process, and allowed for really beautiful graphic designs. Haven't done web development in well over a decade, but I assume from your comment this is no longer a thing?
> and allowed for really beautiful graphic designs
So long as your browser window was the same resolution as the designers.
Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)
#274No mention of the page-view counter? Remember those, we'd put the message "just a counter, don't click" beneath them.
Well, I got a girlfriend just because of that. My personal blog was kinda popular in those days. A girl once commented/emailed (forgot) something in the lines of -- You gotta be kidding, the counters is fake and scripted, right? It is increasing every second or so. You cannot have so many visitors!
Those were the times of the high hundred-thousands visits to my site if not millions each month.
I told her to meet me and look at the analytics. I show her the stuffs and she became my girlfriend. ;-)
Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)
#275My first software dev job was in the 90's writing PHP for a mom and pop ISP that was trying to get into app development. It was originally supposed to be Perl, the job interview was something like: Me: demos CRUD app for keeping track of my record collection, hosted on a free site Owner: You wrote this? Me: Yeah. Owner: This is in Perl? Me: Yeah. So I got hired. The day I got there, he told me they were going to use…
The best was when they wanted you to throw a curved border around something in an age before floats or border radii. You could do it multiple different ways, but usually it just involved slicing up an image and throwing the image elements into a table which wrapped your content.
Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)
#276> The absolute first thing we did with CSS was use it to stop underlining links. I don't know how this trend came to be. I fought it for as long as I could, links are underlined and when you hovered them the underline would go away to make it extra clear this is an interactive element. I considered it a staple of good design. Why did we remove the underline?
and in the a:link, a:visited, a:hover, a:active order generally too... or as I remembered them... love, hate.
Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)
#277"Distributed HTML"? I thought DHTML meant "Dynamic HTML"?! Or is he being sarcastic?
Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)
#278Earlier quoted context omitted.
Back in the day, HTML usually came with its own built-in version control. You could view source and see exactly what thought process the web designer (read: the person who figured out HomeSite first) had gone through, like: Hi there because the editors didn’t actually understand HTML beyond what was required to wrap a tag around a block of text.
I bet this is what a word doc looks like under the hood. Especially if you see what kind of crap code something like frontpage produced. Lots of boilerplate muck and stuff cancelling each other out. We used to call it Strontpage at a place I worked. Stront means shit in Dutch. Dreamweaver was so much better and it embraced CSS instead of trying to avoid it. Though I liked coding in just an editor, for me as a non-gra…
Funnily enough you can see what a word doc looks like because the x in .docx is “XML” so save the word doc as .html and bask in the flaming dumpster fire of the font definitions at the top inline CSS.
Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)
#279"Distributed HTML"? I thought DHTML meant "Dynamic HTML"?! Or is he being sarcastic?
I think most of us just get certain linguistic grooves worn in our brains or maybe it's just muscle memory because yes, it's "dynamic".
Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)
#280Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, it is dynamic. But the author also mentioned putting spacer gifs in semantically appropriate containers, so I think it may have been a joke?
I think it is a joke. Also, as far as I can remember, you could never combine and because only IE supported and only the Netscape family of browsers supported . I think there is a lot of humor in this article that is maybe a little too subtle.
My memory at this point is faded, but I thought that was the point? You used both of them to cover both the Netscape and IE cases.
(Hence, the joke, that to combine the two made you a Great Web Developer, since you knew about such things. The bar was rather low in those days, to be honest.)