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Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by robocat »

echelon wrote: post #235
theshrike79 wrote: post #106

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The definition is from NCMEC[0] and ONLY from NCMEC. No FSB, no MSS, no FBI. This is the EXACT SAME database EVERY cloud provider has been using for about a decade. Look up Microsoft PhotoDNA. The only difference is that the company doing it was Apple, who wanted to do the checks on-device BEFORE upload. And with multiple redundancies and human review. Not like Microsoft, who have - for example - shut down the MS acc…

Longbets 10 years $10,000 we see this used by Apple (or a government agency) in a way that deviates from your attestation? I'll eat my hat if this system doesn't hurt someone innocent.

> I'll eat my hat

One of these yummy nacho hats? https://www.google.com/search?q=nacho+hats&tbm=isch

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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kadoban wrote: post #92
wvenable wrote: post #43

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For both Google and Samsung, security updates. Google says "Feature drops for at least three years from when the device first became available on the Google Store in the US." on the shop page footnotes. Samsung says you get 3 major Android updates on your devices. Therefore, Samsung is a better deal for updates assuming Google doesn't release a new major Android version every year.

Does Samsung still take an eternity to do the actual updates once they're available from Goog?

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Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by eis »

Google seems to have for some reason requested a very/overly broad embargo from reviewers which does not let them show any photos taken with the device or software features for now.

MKBHD mentions this (and shows nothing from the phone really) @ https://youtu.be/roWxo6jWoYw?t=140 And Mrwhosetheboss said he refused to cover these phones due to the embargo. The Tech Chap mentions he can't show anything apart from the home screen. Can't even swipe down to show notifications @ https://youtu.be/aLr7eCsY6Cg?t=191

Wonder what made them think that that's a good idea. Especially because Android 12 is not exactly a secret.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by threeseed »

billyhoffman wrote: post #162
0des wrote: post #70

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This is a common technique used in film when someone is reading from a teleprompter. It is meant to draw attention away from the speaker's eyes moving from side to side.

Which makes the Apple presentations all the more impressive. The camera is head-on, but I don't notice anyone's eye's moving as if reading a teleprompter. I think they've memorize it

In Apple's presentations they are almost always far away e.g. several metres from the camera.

If you look at Craig's OSX section where he is closer you can clearly see his eyes slightly move left to right as he is reading from the teleprompter.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by pcmoney »

marcellus23 wrote: post #26
DCKing wrote: post #20

Thanks Google. Think I’ll be buying this. I want as little to do with Google’s services as possible in my life, but they really deserve credits for making a modern usable smartphone that is reasonably open. There is just one single feature I will be buying this for - the 5 years of software updates. While good image processing is definitely a pro, all of these software you’re presenting features I really don’t give a…

> Apple’s stated intents to actively incriminate you by scanning your photos on a personal device More accurately put, their intent is to scan cloud photos for exact matches with known child pornography material (like every other cloud provider, including Google), and then have the case reviewed by a human only after multiple positives, and only then forwarding the case to law enforcement (based on photos you chose t…

Or more more accurately, their stated intent is to scan for anything any government deems illegal in any country where they operate.

Also who is reviewing this known child pornography list? Hopefully nobody because it is Child pornography but also hopefully somebody because what if somebody slips something in there… Say a offensive political cartoon or a ethnic group symbol or a picture of Tiananmen Square. This list of “offensive images” needs to be auditable.

Also it is crossing a line in the sand because it is on your personal device not in their servers. All you can hope for is that they don’t alter the deal further.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by freeAgent »

cyral wrote: post #175
lucasgonze wrote: post #168

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You're precisely missing the point. There is a new feature to better capture non-white skin tones. Those photos are to illustrate a product benefit. https://twitter.com/search?q=%23RealTone&src=typed_query&f=t...

Yeah, the explanation is literally right above the pictures: "Portraits on Pixel represent the nuances of different skin tones for all people beautifully and authentically."

Are they talking about how they've improved skin tone representation for all people, in which case I would expect more variation of skin tone in those photos, or are they saying that they improved representation of skin tones which contain more melanin? They literally said "all people," but I assume they actually mean the latter based on the representative photos.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by wvenable »

DCKing wrote: post #190
wvenable wrote: post #30

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Samsung announced 5 years of Android updates months ago. Before that, it was 4 years of updates.

Unless you have more recent info (please correct me in that case), that's not quite correct. Last I heard was that Samsung's promise has been 4 years of updates [1]. I recognize Samsung as being well clear of the rest of the pack of Android vendors. Other Android vendors are outright negligent, whereas Samsung seems to generally try to fight their bad incentives and come up with some decency. Where I think Samsung fa…

> Where I think Samsung falls short is execution. Samsung is fundamentally a hardware company and their software has always been mediocre in my view, even to this day.

I disagree. I really like Samsung's take on Android and appreciate features like Dex. With some first-party software from the company, they also make Android extremely customizable. The long tail of Android features that exist only on Samsung devices would probably surprise you. OneUI is a pretty clean take on Android styling.

> In terms of security updates they promise less than Google, they promise fewer and slower updates than Google

I'm getting monthly updates on my somewhat older devices. Not just security updates but full on Samsung software updates. I just got a bunch of new features on tablet this week including quicker multi-tasking, better window docking, etc.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by jeltz »

kisamoto wrote: post #57

I think normally I'd look for the Pixel or the iPhone but my next purchase will be supporting FairPhone. When I think about how powerful I need my phone to be I don't need the best. I want something I can fix and update myself; something that's supported for more than a couple of years; something that is a little "better" for the planet. Does anybody use all of the new power of these incredible devices?

I only bought my Pixel 5 because it was not huge. Most phones are too large for my hands, including the Fairphone and the Pixel 6. The Pixel 5 is almost too big too.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by robocat »

vdfs wrote: post #63
mellosouls wrote: post #28

Before rushing in to purchase, note that in some regions, you can claim back a pair of Bose 700 after purchase of the Pixel (at no extra cost)... eg: https://pixel-offers.com/headphones/en-GB

In many regions you can't even see this page

Try: https://pixel-offers.com/headphones/en-GB?regionRedirect=tru...
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