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Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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For me personally, they hit it out of the park -- except for the notch, which seems like a complete showstopper to me at first sight. Maybe it's not so bad in practice if games and full-screen videos keep that whole strip solid black? But almost all the screenshots are of fullscreen apps, so it seems Apple thinks it looks a bit ungainly too.

The notch gives us smaller bezels / more screen real-estate. It _kind of_ makes sense.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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HDMI, SD Card, and MagSafe. Things people on the internet inclusive but not limited to HN said they will never come back because the future is USB-C. Now I just want to know if the new keyboard has more key travel distance back to the like of MacBook Pro 2015. In case anyone wants to know the thickness difference. MacBook Pro 13" 2015 - 1.8 cm MacBook Pro 13" 2016 - 1.49 / 1.55 cm MacBook Pro 14" / 16" 2021 - 1.55 /…

Glad there’re back, but these are not Pro features and should not be limited to the Pro line (starting at $2,000). These are basic features that should be on consumer machines. I shouldn’t have to pay 80% more just to get HDMI, SD, and other features that were on Apple laptops 6 years ago.

> I shouldn’t have to pay 80% more just to get HDMI, SD, and other features

Pedantic nitpick, but a USB-C hub costs ~$40, or about 4% more than the base price of a Macbook Air.

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And so ends the last of the Dark Days of Johnny Ive. Don't get me wrong: he innovated a lot. My theory is when Jobs died, he lost his counterbalance and his designs suddenly became without compromise (no that isn't a good thing). It's when we saw the 12" Macbook as the crusade for thinness at all costs (terrible performance, only one port, a terrible version of the macbook Air), the end of the Macbook Air (before get…

The 12” MacBook was beloved by my elderly parents, who liked the low weight design and didn’t need to do anything other than check email and the web. Horses for courses. It was a great machine for the right audience.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Can't believe they did so many positive changes with the MBP only to add the notch from the phone in too. Almost the perfect update. Does this mean every app in full screen has to be updated to account for it? > posted in wrong thread so copying here

No, remember that the notch extends the display upward, and does not expand downward into the display. Apple's reasoning is now you get a 16:10 display without having the top menu bar enroaching within it. Which I'm perfectly fine with. Useless black area made useful.

Is MacOS also going to restrict all apps that run full-screen to the 16:10 display area and not the strip?

If they have done that, it's fine.

But even then I can think of a bunch of people who buy MacBooks to run Linux.. it's going to be a showstopper for them.

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Not trying to be snarky here, but... it'll probably come across that way. Will we ever see the end of beach balls? I've got an m1 Mac mini, and ... I see far fewer, but I still see them. I don't understand what with so many core, so must 'fast' and 'powerful' stuff, that my computer will still freeze and lag doing seemingly normal stuff.

https://accidentallyquadratic.tumblr.com

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Its amusing that a lot of the features being hyped are simply Apple giving up on terrible design features they've been forcing for years and just providing what every other laptop does (normal keyboard, no touch bar and physical function keys, ports for HDMI cables, headphones, SD cards).

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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post #63

For me personally, they hit it out of the park -- except for the notch, which seems like a complete showstopper to me at first sight. Maybe it's not so bad in practice if games and full-screen videos keep that whole strip solid black? But almost all the screenshots are of fullscreen apps, so it seems Apple thinks it looks a bit ungainly too.

I wonder how this will work with Apple Calendar or Safari in full screen (with the new iOS 15 compact tabs). I wonder if they are moving to a concept of full screen where the top bar is always visible.

From the marketing images on the website, it looks like fullscreen apps will just have a black bar across the top. Kind of frustrating! The inaccessibility of the top menu bar is the main reason I never use the native full-screen mode on macOS. Since the menu bar is now within the extra added space on top, I hope we eventually get the option to leave it visible.
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