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Re: Apple unveils new iPad mini with breakthrough performance in new design

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Post by rchaud »

runawaybottle wrote: post #174
jrockway wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple has kind of disappointed me with the software situation on iPads. I have an iPad Pro that I use as a laptop, but the reality is that the processing power available is underused. It has a 120Hz screen, but websites can't render to the canvas at 120Hz. There is no CAD software (which is nice when you design something and head to your makerspace to actually manufacture it -- I just print plans out on paper, but it…

It’s a sub 500 dollar device aimed at casual users and students. You sound like a power user, you should opt to go for the MacBook Air bare-minimum.

Casual users and students will go with the base model 10-inch iPad that's about $200 less.

Ever since the Mini 4, Apple's set premium pricing on the Mini. This is the most expensive one yet.

Re: Apple unveils new iPad mini with breakthrough performance in new design

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Post by rchaud »

justapassenger wrote: post #22
anm89 wrote: post #6

I love how everything has to be a "revolutionary breakthrough" with apple. Wow the 73rd version of the 19th variation of the ipad gets better performance. What a break though.

It's amazing how Apple was able to get general public to be excited about things like "20% brighter display". Benefits of being rockstar I guess. But all rockstars get out of fashion...

You make it sound like Apple won't spend billions in advertising that 20% brighter display. People don't get excited for no reason. Someone somewhere is engineering that nudge from apathy to interest.

Re: Apple unveils new iPad mini with breakthrough performance in new design

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Post by johnchristopher »

root-z wrote: post #137
defaultname wrote: post #36

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Every single company that sells things does this. You are talking about an Apple event and promo page where they are quite literally giving a sales pitch for their new products. That they (over)hype their own products is not only not notable or interesting, it's entirely expected. It is a bit bizarre that your comment, or variations of it, appears for every single Apple release. For those people so jaded and annoyed…

You are right that it's just sales language, but people, tech folks in particular, don't have to like it and it's nothing wrong to voice their complaints. In fact it would be quite freshing today if some company start talking down to earth languages, like "hey we are giving you basically the same phone as last year with slightly better camera etc. It's useful though."

> You are right that it's just sales language, but people, tech folks in particular, don't have to like it and it's nothing wrong to voice their complaints.

Except it gets old real fast. These comments read like "first".

No signal, all noise.

Same thing with the PHP, electron and Facebook topics for instance. First top comments have been saying the same thing for years.

Re: Apple unveils new iPad mini with breakthrough performance in new design

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Post by johnchristopher »

chalst wrote: post #150
root-z wrote: post #137

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You are right that it's just sales language, but people, tech folks in particular, don't have to like it and it's nothing wrong to voice their complaints. In fact it would be quite freshing today if some company start talking down to earth languages, like "hey we are giving you basically the same phone as last year with slightly better camera etc. It's useful though."

Fairphone did exactly this with the Fairphone 3+: they emphasised that they were just upgrading two components of the Fairphone 3 that had attracted criticism (the camera and speaker) and otherwise didn't want to change anything about their super-easy-to-repair phone with promises that replacement parts would be available for many years. Fairphone's marketing is rather unusual in the marketplace in this respect.

It's interesting you mention that because I went to their website today and they are running a secret product campaign at the moment:

> The ...............* that can change a whole industry

> *Coming soon. Subscribe for updates and a chance to win big!

So it may be a laptop, a fairphone 4, a DIY geosync satellite. Or simply the old trick that tickles curiosity and get them subscribers to their newsletter. Not that unusual. And as a techie I say "fine, keep your secrets then" though.

Re: Apple unveils new iPad mini with breakthrough performance in new design

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Post by kjreact »

post_break wrote: post #264
kjreact wrote: post #226

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Ok, let’s use your terminology and say they are postponing the rollout. You speak as though they’ve already rolled it out. It could also be an indefinite postponement. Yet you insist on painting the narrative as if it already occurred. Guilty until proven innocent. I’ll be right there next to you protesting my right to privacy if they do rollout the feature against our wishes, but until then I’ll give them the benefi…

https://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-executive-defends-tools-t... https://www.vice.com/en/article/wx5yzq/apple-defends-its-ant... https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/08/apple-says-it-wi... I mean I could go on but benefit of the doubt is gone after seeing Craig defend them so adamantly. Why would Apple go to all this trouble, get some push back, and just throw their hands up and say you're right, we're not going t…

All the articles that you linked came prior to when Apple officially postponed the rollout. Doesn’t Apple have the right to explain and defend their position? Even though they tried defending their view adamantly they still ultimately didn’t go through with it. So why should I doubt their intentions?

IMO, I believe Apple was trying to offload CSAM scanning to devices to save some server-side processing costs. It was an example of Apple being stingy and penny pinching instead of anything nefarious.

Re: Apple unveils new iPad mini with breakthrough performance in new design

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Post by rchaud »

Kaotique wrote: post #164
tpmx wrote: post #51

From the macrumors keynote feed comments: These keynotes are ****ing uncanny. Plays like a Black Mirror episode. Don't know why. Nailed it.

It feels weird to me. Maybe it's just the current American culture that feels off for a European like myself. It is over directed and over produced. Zero spontaneity. I would rather watch Elon throw a metal ball into a car window during a presentation. At least that is real. Change the way movies are directed, because of this new phone? Give me a break. I'm sure it will produce nicer TikTok and YouTube videos but no…

> I'm sure it will produce nicer TikTok and YouTube videos but no serious director is going to shoot a million dollar production with a 1000 dollar phone.

I'm as crusty a curmudgeon as it comes, but Apple is targeting the right market here: people who may become directors and artists in the future.

Sure, there will never be a 3-hr Scorcese Mafia movie shot in portrait mode on a 12 Pro. But Scorcese and artists like him are already in the rearview mirror for Apple. They are a mass market brand, they're selling to the 'creator' generation.

Who cares if its used to make 2-minute videos that will disappear into the ether? Look at that 20% brighter screen. Buy now!

Re: Apple unveils new iPad mini with breakthrough performance in new design

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Post by rchaud »

clairity wrote: post #243
Kaotique wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It feels weird to me. Maybe it's just the current American culture that feels off for a European like myself. It is over directed and over produced. Zero spontaneity. I would rather watch Elon throw a metal ball into a car window during a presentation. At least that is real. Change the way movies are directed, because of this new phone? Give me a break. I'm sure it will produce nicer TikTok and YouTube videos but no…

moreover, the whole segment on fitness+ was so tone-deaf. they kept trying to make it seem like a universally-appealing service, portrayed by diverse people but in ultra-aesthetic settings, so really targeted at the well-off among us. regular folk don't set up their cellular-connected ipad in the park to work out with the aid of their iphone-dependent apple watch.

15 years ago when they had that "Nike+" tracker thing with the iPod Nano, I still couldn't figure out what it did, because I couldn't afford Nikes and could barely afford a used iPod.

Re: Apple unveils new iPad mini with breakthrough performance in new design

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Post by pwinnski »

delaaxe wrote: post #62
defaultname wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every single company that sells things does this. You are talking about an Apple event and promo page where they are quite literally giving a sales pitch for their new products. That they (over)hype their own products is not only not notable or interesting, it's entirely expected. It is a bit bizarre that your comment, or variations of it, appears for every single Apple release. For those people so jaded and annoyed…

Obnoxious overhyping is not normal in most cultures around the world.

Most of Asia begs to differ, if not all of Asia.

Re: Apple unveils new iPad mini with breakthrough performance in new design

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Post by jrockway »

runawaybottle wrote: post #174
jrockway wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple has kind of disappointed me with the software situation on iPads. I have an iPad Pro that I use as a laptop, but the reality is that the processing power available is underused. It has a 120Hz screen, but websites can't render to the canvas at 120Hz. There is no CAD software (which is nice when you design something and head to your makerspace to actually manufacture it -- I just print plans out on paper, but it…

It’s a sub 500 dollar device aimed at casual users and students. You sound like a power user, you should opt to go for the MacBook Air bare-minimum.

The M1 is neat but it's not worth it for me. I hate everything about OS X. BSD command-line tools, a slow-as-most-glaciers Terminal.app, constant nagging about some menial task I need to perform for the computer. Nope, nope, nope. ("But if you just screw around with it for 20 years, then it will be just perfect." I already spent 20 years screwing around with Linux, so that cost is sunk. Sorry.)

I really don't like doing "computery" stuff on more than one machine, and I already have a 32 core desktop workstation for normal work. That will never go away, which means the laptop can't be at all "computery". I want to touch an app with my finger and have the app start up. Every time, no matter what. (And to be fair, the iPad Pro absolutely delivers on that.) To me, a laptop will always be the second fiddle, something I use once a month or so. I find that if I don't screw around with my computer for a month, everything has stopped working -- but with a tablet, it just turns on and all is well. So you just throw the thing into your backpack for a trip, then when you get to the airport it turns on and 4G connects to the cell network, and everything is great. You have a computer, not computer problems.

(Other laptops I've used in the past... Surface Pro 4. Left it turned on on my desk, went to get it ready for a trip... BAM brand new version of Windows and everything was broken. I didn't take it on the trip and just used my phone to browse the Internet at night. Chromebook Pixel: basically no problems, but just as limited as an iPad. Various Linux laptops: honestly, most of my vacation memories involve wpa_supplicant.conf, and a lot of problems 10 minutes before whatever conference talk I was giving. Not sure if conference WiFi or Linux bugs, but it wasn't pleasant.)

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