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Amazon’s answer to delivery driver shortage: Pot smokers

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Re: Amazon’s answer to delivery driver shortage: Pot smokers

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None of the states I've ever been, over the thousands of times I have partaken, with the maybe hundred different strains, with different percentages of indica/sativa, at different dosages, in different forms (flower vs. edible vs. whatever else), have ever been safe for me to operate a vehicle. No, nobody is an exception. You are not superhuman. Please stop normalizing this. This narrative makes it harder to change t…

Sorry, I don't agree. I don't think cannabis is just a drug for having fun. I'm open to scientific studies that show that car accidents increase but your experience is yours and mine is mine. The people who have a problem with it aren't going to be able to stop legalization. You shouldn't do it, I agree.

States with legal weed have seen accident numbers increase. The reasons why are more nuanced than that statement implies.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tanyamohn/2021/06/21/crash-rate...

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Weed doesn't cause people to do that. So why does it matter?

It doesn't matter. Look further up the discussion thread and you'll see that was my original point: Some people may mix weed with other drugs but that's irrelevant for the linked story.

I don't see the point in mentioning it. Some people skydive. Some people prefer dogs over cats.

What's the point?

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Even if your friend truly did not consume marijuana how do you conclude it was the ibuprofen that caused that failed test?

It was the only medication he was taking at the time because of a tooth ache. The authority requiring the test let it pass.

I would still want to rule out other factors before concluding ibuprofen had anything to do with it such as a mix up in samples or the tester doing something wrong like contaminating the tests. A single data point in this instance truly shows nothing.

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There are health risks associated with THC: - the possibility of psychosis or schizophrenia in people 16-35 ( https://medicine.yale.edu/psychiatry/step/resources/Cannabis... ) - the same risk that inhaling any combustible has - overeating - cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome ( https://www.cedars-sinai.org/health-library/diseases-and-con... ) For some people the benefits outweigh the risks, especially when practiced in…

Overeating? That's a health risk for THC? And the last I heard, oxygen was "combustible". Inhaling a combustible isn't a health risk; inhaling combustion products might be. But many pot smokers use a vape, set to well-below the combustion temperature for their chosen herb.

> Overeating? That's a health risk for THC?

Yeah, certainly. I'm not a doctor, but weed makes people eat. Hence it's been used to help folks with eating disorders.

Source: https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/how-to-stop-munchie...

Vapes have issues too, which include exposure to heavy metals. By combustibles I mean anything you burn. Again, not a doctor and not a medical scientist so I may be using the wrong words but most people who use weed know these things. Most notably, anything that is smoked will incur a small but sharp rise in blood pressure. If you wear a heart monitor (or wrist watch with one) it's fairly trivial to detect.

Source: https://www.leafly.com/news/health/california-cannabis-labs-...

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Alright, let's flip the question: what doesn't constitute an "extension of prison labor"? If you think everything is an "extension of prison labor" that's not really an interesting statement. Is being a prehistoric hunter-gatherer also an "extension of prison labor"? It seems to check your boxes. Risking your life to hunt for woolly mammoths definitely seems more risky than delivering packages at 8:37pm, so I doubt t…

Well, today's society isn't that far off from slavery. The main difference is the lash has been replaced by economic punishments. People have the gall to call work voluntary when you literally starve if you opt out. Most workers will not see much improvement in their quality of life despite working hard for long hours. We'll be free once our basic necessities are taken care of unconditionally. That means food, housin…

>Well, today's society isn't that far off from slavery. The main difference is the lash has been replaced by economic punishments. People have the gall to call work voluntary when you literally starve if you opt out.

What's the difference between having to work or else you starve, and having to hunt/gather or else you starve?

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It doesn't matter. Look further up the discussion thread and you'll see that was my original point: Some people may mix weed with other drugs but that's irrelevant for the linked story.

I don't see the point in mentioning it. Some people skydive. Some people prefer dogs over cats. What's the point?

Look further up. I wasn't the one who mentioned it. I was the one who replied and said it wasn't relevant.

Then someone said I was wrong because people don't actually mix drugs like that, and I contradicted them based on personal knowledge of it happening.

Then you asked me why it matters, perhaps not realizing that I had already said it does not, further up the thread. Now you're saying it's not worth mentioning. I agree, which is why I made my original comment way up the thread, so this has become a bit circular.

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I don't see the point in mentioning it. Some people skydive. Some people prefer dogs over cats. What's the point?

Look further up. I wasn't the one who mentioned it. I was the one who replied and said it wasn't relevant. Then someone said I was wrong because people don't actually mix drugs like that, and I contradicted them based on personal knowledge of it happening. Then you asked me why it matters, perhaps not realizing that I had already said it does not, further up the thread. Now you're saying it's not worth mentioning. I…

Okay so why bring it up?

(I'm kidding, thanks for clarifying)

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Staggering school bus service isn’t that uncommon, I don’t think there are many school districts where their bus drivers only need to drive one route rather than 2 or 3. Not only can the drivers be employed for most of the day, but the bus itself gets more use.

I think you are correct, but I didn't want to claim that since I only have experience in one school district, and the experience was very short.

I moved around a lot as a kid so got to participate in many different school districts. Talking to the school bus driver they all talk about their schedules.

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It was the only medication he was taking at the time because of a tooth ache. The authority requiring the test let it pass.

I would still want to rule out other factors before concluding ibuprofen had anything to do with it such as a mix up in samples or the tester doing something wrong like contaminating the tests. A single data point in this instance truly shows nothing.

It's also on the list of drugs that could trigger a false positive in an urine test:

https://www.uspharmacist.com/article/urine-drug-screening-mi...

”Nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) have also been shown to interact with UDS immunoassays. Both ibuprofen and naproxen have been documented to cause false-positive barbiturate4 and cannabinoid1-4 levels. In addition, ibuprofen can cause a false-positive PCP level.1-2,4”

Re: Amazon’s answer to delivery driver shortage: Pot smokers

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Well I am all in favor of legalizeing, but there is side effect: those who are smoking in public, cigarette but especially pot, must have harsh consequence. I go to some place in US and it is stinking everywhere on public streets. People can not force everybody to inhale their drug fume only because they want their high. Edit for clarifying: maybe a $200 fine is good point for starting, go up to $500 with repeating.…

Oh, I'm all in favour of "harsh consequence" for people for making bad smells. I'd start with drivers with engines that belch fumes and particulates because they are defective or out-of-adjustment.

We should aalso inflict "consequence" on the SUV drivers who clog the roads in the town I live in; I have medically-compromised lungs, so the stink of diesel fumes isn't just an annoyance for me.

Let's also punish people who use wood-fired stoves in built-up areas. I live in a smoke-controlled zone, but for some reason builders are allowed to install these stoves in new-build homes, provided the model of stove meets certain standards. Well, that's cool; if the stove itself is safe, it must be the owner, operating it incorrectly. So let's give them some consequence too.

These offences aren't much like smoking a ciggie, which last about 7 minutes; the amount of fumes produced by a ICE per minute is much greater than that produced by a smoker, and the ICE generally runs for much longer than 7 minutes. Wood-fired stoves are normally run continuously for several hours, and not for heat; they are used to generate a nostalgic and aesthetic effect. If that harms others, or even if it just creates a bad smell, let's be harsh.

I'm also keen to impose "harsh consequence" on dog owners who allow their dog to deposit smelly stuff at my front gate, and who then fail to pick up that shit and take it away with them. This is a particular problem if you get a 3-week cold snap; 3 weeks-worth of dogshit all thaws at the same time, and the smell of dogshit coming out of deep-freeze pervades entire neighbourhoods. And of course, pot-smoke doesn't contain toxoplasmosis.

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