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dlc is abandoned and dlp integrates its features.
So dlc is a fork of dl, but dl itself has actually a bunch of fairly recent commits which dlc does not have. And dlp nor dlc are 'forks' in the Github sense of forking. So how does one figure out whether recent dl commits are in dlp? And does this matter? Is this the downside of 'if you don't like it then just fork it and fix it'?
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#272Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can't run ads on them, and you risk lawsuits of all kind if you let people easily download copyrighted content. They aren't running a museum, it just happens to be the largest video sharing platform on the planet.
> it just happens to be the largest video sharing platform on the planet. china might want to disagree
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#273Why can't YouTube and Alphabet simply provide a download button or a public API? When you are running the worlds largest digital museum of rare video footage, you have some obligations to the society.
Apparently, copyright law makes this an unwise proposition. But the least they could do is offer the Internet Archive with some privileged access so all this can be mirrored and viewed when it's out of copyright in 80 years.
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#274Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. They’re not enough from YouTube itself unless you’re in the top percentile. Also what sponsored content are people downloading versus just streaming live? I don’t get the use case.
I always remember the HN comment[0] where developer explained which video was the breaking point that pushed them into creating this app, and it was kurzgesagt of all authors. I am personally wondering if Yourube themselves are going to start implementing some thing like this sooner or later; after all, you are paying for an ad free experience on YouTube premium, just to watch all of those new videos become filled wi…
Unlikely. It requires monitoring content and ensuring they people add (correct) timestamps for sponsored content. This would need to be verified by YouTube moderators and in general requires a lot more resources than you think. Crowdsourcing like SponsorBlock is feasible but it's unlikely that YouTube will integrate SponsorBlock into the site.
Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes
#275Why can't YouTube and Alphabet simply provide a download button or a public API? When you are running the worlds largest digital museum of rare video footage, you have some obligations to the society.
Apparently, copyright law makes this an unwise proposition. But the least they could do is offer the Internet Archive with some privileged access so all this can be mirrored and viewed when it's out of copyright in 80 years.
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#276Earlier quoted context omitted.
Literally everything. 1. I download whole channels if there's a series I want to watch. 2. I download music, since youtube is a really quite nice music library. 3. I download long videos before I watch it, because it's just more pleasant to rewind the thing when it's already on your SSD. Also, it won't freeze spoiling a beautiful scene because of some stupid WiFi problem. 4. Even if I don't download it before watchin…
What is your workflow for this?
mpv itself uses ytdl (or others) for accessing streming sites and will buffer the whole vid if you crank up cache settings like:
cache=yes
demuxer-max-bytes=5G
demuxer-max-back-bytes=5G
prefetch-playlist=yes
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But what then do you think is a realistic alternative? YouTube costing $20/mo or more? Can’t watch videos without a patron? If your answer is nothing — I expect everything for free, then that’s both unrealistic and parasitic.
In fact I do pay for yt premium, yet still get these kinds of ads. So much for that misplaced and invalid attempt at moralizing. "are they so terrible?" and "what's the alternative?" are not my problem to answer, and I don't even have to agree they are valid questions that someone has to answer. I do not accept the premise that the only way content can exist is if advertisers pay for it. That's a false dichotomy. The…
How do you feel about DRM to make sure content is only accessible to those who paid for it?
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Solution: a report ad button for Premium subscribers. Once a significant (number && percentage) of users report it kt is flagged, - first to the creator - and then shortly afterwards - if the creator does not either fix it or verify it - to a review team or even to a customer panel Some logic can be applied to filter out abuses of the system by: - looking for reports by new viewers of this channel (brigading) - dismi…
Surely as soon as you have this there'll be a service to leak the time codes to non-subscribers so embeds, yt-dl's forks, etc. can auto-skip.
Maybe there had been less enthusiasm around such projects though if they didn't have legitimate uses?
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#279Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. In my experience, it's the same with ads everywhere else. It (usually) starts out not being overly obnoxious, with just a "this video is sponsored by [garbage tier mobile game/earphones/vpn/whatever] more about them…
Do you have YouTube premium? If not consider at some point, someone has to give the channel revenue stream or the channel will die
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#280Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you pay for YouTube Premium, the creators of monetized videos you watch get paid an order of magnitude more than with just YouTube ads.
"order of magnitude" implies 10x. That's great news for small / independent creators! Can someone point me to a source for this information?
The reason being that people in the businessy genre already get 10x (~$10CPM) what a gaming channel (~$1CPM) gets because there's more advertisers and less channels. You'd need to know the source channel