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How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils
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Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils
#272On a related note, let's clear up a few things... Myth: The "soul" is something separate from the body. Fact: The soul being a separate entity from the physical body did not come from Judaism or Christianity. In Genesis 2:7, the first man "became" a soul (Hebrew "Nephesh"[1]), he was not "given" a soul. The Old Testament teaches that the "soul" is the whole person. The Bible uses the word "soul" in reference to both…
> Also, the place that Jesus said people would go for this "eternal fire" was called "Gehenna"[2] (not Hell) which in those days was just a garbage dump outside of Jerusalem. You are taking the use of Gehanna literally. How do we know that Gehanna is not being used metaphorically as a representation to provoke an emotional visualization of real conditions in an actual Hell? How do you interpret > Mar 9:48 - Where the…
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You’re misunderstanding what I said and you’ve got it backwards. Jesus was speaking metaphorically when he said “Gehenna”, not literally. The eternal fire was not literal and Gehenna was not literal. It’s a symbol for eternal destruction.
The reason he mentioned the worm is because the Jews at that time understood that the worm would eat dead bodies in the literal Gehenna. Jesus was pointing out that their future death would be eternal with no hope of a resurrection if they continued down a certain spiritual path.
Also, please look up the verses I cited previously. The symbolic understanding of Gehenna is in agreement with those other verses where God clearly does not condone burning people, let alone burning them eternally.
Also, there is no place in the Bible that says that the “soul” will reside in hell forever, separate from the body. The whole person gets thrown in Gehenna, which is pointed out in the context of the verse you cited (see verses 43 to 47).
Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils
#273The article does a great job at explaining an important topic (morality) to the common public, using analogies from popular culture and religion to make its point. It resonates with the tech community because some may have been struggling with this dilemma in the shadows for a long time, due to the conflict of interests. Since this was a “how to” guide, if you want to get serious, here is a short video how to do the…
Do the opposite? Buy an extra soul from Satan? Why?
Nope, how not to sell your soul while living in a dark world
Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils
#274Earlier quoted context omitted.
Precisely. If atheists are correct and there is not a god, you gain/lose nothing. However if the other side is correct and God does exist, the risk of existential woe is unfathomable. (None of this describes a personal perspective, merely things I’ve read)
atheists don't say there is no god. At least the general definition of atheism. Only that there is no reason to believe that there is one.
>Only that there is no reason to believe that there is one.
That would be agnosticism. Atheists claim there is definitely no god.
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#275Earlier quoted context omitted.
atheists don't say there is no god. At least the general definition of atheism. Only that there is no reason to believe that there is one.
>Only that there is no reason to believe that there is one. That would be agnosticism. Atheists claim there is definitely no god.
Atheist just don't believe there is a god. You can't rationally claim 100% certainty of anything.
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#276Earlier quoted context omitted.
atheists don't say there is no god. At least the general definition of atheism. Only that there is no reason to believe that there is one.
>Only that there is no reason to believe that there is one. That would be agnosticism. Atheists claim there is definitely no god.
sorry, you are incorrect.
Gnosticism/Agnosticism are, for all practical purposes, useless terms.
Gnosticism is what you know.
Theism is what you believe.
The two words are splitting hairs, the difference is just the level of certainty. You don't wait for absolute knowledge to act. You act on your beliefs.
A-gnosticism is a lack of total knowledge
A-theism is a lack in a belief in a god.
The definition of atheism is a lack in a belief in a god, not a claim that gods don't exist. There are some atheists who believe that no god's exist, but that is something extra beyond atheism.
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#277Earlier quoted context omitted.
As I understand it, "soul" is synonymous with "attention". That is : you direct it and concentrate it. And it is prone to distraction (temptation?). Given that, we are all well familiar with our soul. And its manipulation is a common everyday occurrence.
I think many religious people would disagree with your definition. That's the problem with any discussions of the "soul". It is poorly defined.
Better to refer to an observation than a definition, when discussing real stuff. It's the more solid reference.
We can observe attention.
Can we observe this alternative to which you refer?
Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils
#278Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think many religious people would disagree with your definition. That's the problem with any discussions of the "soul". It is poorly defined.
Better to refer to an observation than a definition, when discussing real stuff. It's the more solid reference. We can observe attention. Can we observe this alternative to which you refer?
No of course not. However, changing a definition away from what billions of people believe doesn't seem productive. If you want to talk about attention, cool, but call it attention. Most religious people don't consider the soul to be a synonym for attention.
It's similar to how some people want to redefine god as the universe. Ok, then just call it the universe, doing otherwise drags all kinds of assumptions and presuppositions that muddy the waters.
Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils
#279Earlier quoted context omitted.
Better to refer to an observation than a definition, when discussing real stuff. It's the more solid reference. We can observe attention. Can we observe this alternative to which you refer?
No of course not. However, changing a definition away from what billions of people believe doesn't seem productive. If you want to talk about attention, cool, but call it attention. Most religious people don't consider the soul to be a synonym for attention. It's similar to how some people want to redefine god as the universe. Ok, then just call it the universe, doing otherwise drags all kinds of assumptions and pres…
Then you refer to a fantasy.
Billions are immersed in fantasy.
One might call that a classically religious debacle.
Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils
#280Earlier quoted context omitted.
No of course not. However, changing a definition away from what billions of people believe doesn't seem productive. If you want to talk about attention, cool, but call it attention. Most religious people don't consider the soul to be a synonym for attention. It's similar to how some people want to redefine god as the universe. Ok, then just call it the universe, doing otherwise drags all kinds of assumptions and pres…
Then you refer to a fantasy. Billions are immersed in fantasy. One might call that a classically religious debacle.
I'm not saying that's what i believe. I don't believe a soul exists, or could exist. But I'm saying that's what billions of people believe. It doesn't help to redefine away a problem.