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Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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I think having IG and FB is a liability for them. Imo Epic Games is making better choices right now with their acquisitions and marketing strats. Seems more appealing to me.

Facebook will likely try to acquire Epic in the near future.

Why Epic as opposed to any other forward-thinking gaming company like Valve? Sort of random.

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Facebook has so far tried, and failed, to do this. Twice. First was Facebook Spaces. Opened 2017, closed 2019. This was a VR world. Not a very good one. It was mostly a 3D approach to a desktop.[1] You could hand other people flat pictures. Sharing! Total flop. Second was Facebook Horizon. Opened 2020, still running, but not getting much attention. It's a 3D cartoon level VR world. Works OK, not very interesting or p…

VR/AR is such a new paradigm for interacting with computers I think that its inevitable companies will make many failures before finding the apps and hardware that clicks with customers. In 2017, we had only had mainstream non-beta VR headset hardware in the marketplace since 2016 (original consumer Rift, HTC Vive), lets not forget the 20 years of PDA hardware/software attempts we lived through before the mainstream…

VR/AR is such a new paradigm for interacting with computers.

Not really. I tried Jaron Lainer's original VR rig back in the 1980s. The Autodesk system from the 1980s. The W Industries system ... the HTC Vibe. The Microsoft HoloLens. There's been progress, but usability really hasn't improved all that much.

You can shoot at people. That works fine. You can sort of use swords. Everything else, not so much. That's why Beat Saber is still the most successful VR game.

Some Autodesk people once thought that VR would make it easier to use CAD, because selection in 3D with a mouse is such a pain. Didn't work out, and 3D selection with a mouse got much better.

If anybody gets this right, it might be NVidia Omniverse. That's an attempt to do for 3D what shared text editors do for text documents.

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You can't wait for there to be even more ads in this world? You want them to physically follow you around? You can't wait for corporations to see your every move? No thanks. We need to fix our current internet before allowing it to permeate our lives any deeper.

Meh, I'll use the Mozilla VR OS with uBlock 2040 on it

Although the present shows us that most people will be happy corpo serfs. : p

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The killer app of VR has always been virtual sex. We have made no progress towards this.

You can't do reality with just sight and sound. I suspect a 100 years from now people will look at us talking about the metaverse and virtual reality with any kind of headset as ridiculous as the old videos of people flapping wings attempting to fly. It just doesn't work.

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>Maybe FB will buy whatever replaces TikTok. It's unlikely that the government would permit such a sale.

If Facebook buys the next TikTok as a small startup when they have minimal market share then the federal government would have no legal basis to block a sale.

Governments can and do change the legal basis, and they all seem to have a problem with Big Tech right now, albeit for inconsistent reasons.

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Instagram has already peaked and is on the down-trend. TikTok is what the kids are using now - and they're valued at about half of what FB is valued at, so unlikely that FB will be able to buy them. Maybe FB will buy whatever replaces TikTok.

I think Instagram has more staying power than TikTok as TikTok users start aging and the next generation moves onto their own platform. There's a good chance I'm wrong, but my guess is that publishing videos of yourself as a primary communication format gets less appealing with age as social circles shrink.

Personally as a 31 year old male, I could never get into Instagram. Always just felt like a shopping catalogue posing as social media, and the discovery is terrible, no matter how much data I try to feed it.

I love TikTok though, and not only do I feel like it "got me" after only a few hours of use without hearting anything or having any friends that use it. I've learnt about a lot of local events, restaurants and days out - in a way that seems way more organic than Instagram paid influencers.

Honestly, their algorithm has been great for me, in a way that only really Spotify has rivalled.

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VR/AR is such a new paradigm for interacting with computers I think that its inevitable companies will make many failures before finding the apps and hardware that clicks with customers. In 2017, we had only had mainstream non-beta VR headset hardware in the marketplace since 2016 (original consumer Rift, HTC Vive), lets not forget the 20 years of PDA hardware/software attempts we lived through before the mainstream…

VR/AR is such a new paradigm for interacting with computers. Not really. I tried Jaron Lainer's original VR rig back in the 1980s. The Autodesk system from the 1980s. The W Industries system ... the HTC Vibe. The Microsoft HoloLens. There's been progress, but usability really hasn't improved all that much. You can shoot at people. That works fine. You can sort of use swords. Everything else, not so much. That's why B…

Oh my, reading your comment I couldn’t stop myself from laughing. I too tried the old VR headsets, played doom on one and got a massive headache. I thought VR was bad and stupid after that. Then I tried the HTC Vive and holy molly I almost cried after trying it. Now I own an Oculus Quest II and… it is the future. I’m sorry but this is it.
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