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Re: Barry Diller: The movie business as before is finished and will never come back

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Post by nkohari »

reaperducer wrote: post #144
majormajor wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a broader cultural issue for all sorts of art today, not a movie specific thing. The depressed/angry mood has been building for a couple decades or more, and getting more widespread. Even something intentionally over the top like Fast and Furious or Marvel has more "serious issue" stuff in many of the installments from the last 5 years than previously. It's easier in the news to see all the bad stuff that used…

The depressed/angry mood has been building for a couple decades or more, and getting more widespread. You can see this a lot in comedy. Comedy used to be mostly about humor, with occasional social commentary. Now it's largely about anger and shock value. "Comedians" are targeting the same brain patterns as social media. I think that's a reason that people like Jim Gaffigan find such a strong following. There's a good…

This has always been a thing, though: George Carlin, Richard Pryor, etc.

Re: Barry Diller: The movie business as before is finished and will never come back

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Post by hughrr »

lostlogin wrote: post #264
wolverine876 wrote: post #255

Barry: Call me. I'll show you where you can find great art in movies, an order of magnitude more than what was available before. I'm a big believer in data and not personal anecdotes, but if I can do it, Barry can (and you can). I never imagined so much incredible art existed on video as what I've seen in the last 5+ years on streaming. The standard for what I will watch has risen dramatically - I don't have to compr…

> I rarely go to movie theaters because what is available on streaming is so much better, it's not a close call. Better seats, better sound (for me this means not being deafened), better food, better drinks, better price (and no dick moves to get a few more $), no parking issues, less annoying lights/sounds etc from other patrons. I also haven’t seen a theatre with a wood burner. It misses is the feeling of it being…

The real killer of the streaming for is that there is a pause button. I missed out a whole 5 minutes of Avengers Endgame thanks to my bladder.

Re: Barry Diller: The movie business as before is finished and will never come back

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Post by lotsofpulp »

smogcutter wrote: post #247
ryandrake wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was a thread[1] earlier in the week lamenting how tough it is to make modern comedies. Between the Twitter mobs scrutinizing anything for insensitivity and the need to appeal to international markets, it's really hard to come up with a universally funny and PC-acceptable comedy anymore. You can't do slapstick or silliness. You can't (even gently) poke fun at "groups" anymore. Best you can do is a cynical "dark…

This is bizarre, willfully blind take in a world where Always Sunny is one of the longest running comedy series of all time.

If anything, their point is somewhat made because someone made the decision to remove IASIP episodes from legal streaming options.

https://www.reddit.com/r/IASIP/comments/hgbrs8/hulu_has_remo...

And if you are familiar with the show, they are not prejudiced at all. But whoever chose to remove them is doing the "cover your ass" move, so I can certainly see some merit in what ryandrake is saying.

30 rock episodes were removed too:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/23/entertainment/30-rock-episode...

Re: Barry Diller: The movie business as before is finished and will never come back

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Post by hughrr »

Y_Y wrote: post #260
wolverine876 wrote: post #255

Barry: Call me. I'll show you where you can find great art in movies, an order of magnitude more than what was available before. I'm a big believer in data and not personal anecdotes, but if I can do it, Barry can (and you can). I never imagined so much incredible art existed on video as what I've seen in the last 5+ years on streaming. The standard for what I will watch has risen dramatically - I don't have to compr…

Where's the data? Let's have some references to all this high quality stuff.

Well The Expanse quite frankly teabags to death 20 years of science fiction moves. I can't watch anything else now.

Re: Barry Diller: The movie business as before is finished and will never come back

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Post by crooked-v »

Y_Y wrote: post #260
wolverine876 wrote: post #255

Barry: Call me. I'll show you where you can find great art in movies, an order of magnitude more than what was available before. I'm a big believer in data and not personal anecdotes, but if I can do it, Barry can (and you can). I never imagined so much incredible art existed on video as what I've seen in the last 5+ years on streaming. The standard for what I will watch has risen dramatically - I don't have to compr…

Where's the data? Let's have some references to all this high quality stuff.

One also can't forget the power of survivorship bias. 'Old [thing] was better' tends to go along with most of the the low-quality instances of [thing] being lost and forgotten about because nobody cares about them.

Re: Barry Diller: The movie business as before is finished and will never come back

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Post by sammalloy »

Just as the rise of the internet changed the way people read and pay attention to information, so too did the advent of streaming change the way audiences engage with entertainment.

I can barely sit still through anything that's more than an hour long now, and I can't imagine how I used to sit through entire films back in the day.

I've also noticed that I prefer the series arc format over the superficial cinematic, one and done story, making standard film releases less entertaining for me.

Re: Barry Diller: The movie business as before is finished and will never come back

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Post by sleavey »

lostlogin wrote: post #264
wolverine876 wrote: post #255

Barry: Call me. I'll show you where you can find great art in movies, an order of magnitude more than what was available before. I'm a big believer in data and not personal anecdotes, but if I can do it, Barry can (and you can). I never imagined so much incredible art existed on video as what I've seen in the last 5+ years on streaming. The standard for what I will watch has risen dramatically - I don't have to compr…

> I rarely go to movie theaters because what is available on streaming is so much better, it's not a close call. Better seats, better sound (for me this means not being deafened), better food, better drinks, better price (and no dick moves to get a few more $), no parking issues, less annoying lights/sounds etc from other patrons. I also haven’t seen a theatre with a wood burner. It misses is the feeling of it being…

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Re: Barry Diller: The movie business as before is finished and will never come back

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Post by ctdonath »

Y_Y wrote: post #260
wolverine876 wrote: post #255

Barry: Call me. I'll show you where you can find great art in movies, an order of magnitude more than what was available before. I'm a big believer in data and not personal anecdotes, but if I can do it, Barry can (and you can). I never imagined so much incredible art existed on video as what I've seen in the last 5+ years on streaming. The standard for what I will watch has risen dramatically - I don't have to compr…

Where's the data? Let's have some references to all this high quality stuff.

The local cinemas have at most a dozen movies available at any one time, maybe one of which is interesting. One viewing requires $10-50 in assorted expenses.

For $10-50 monthly, I have available approximately every movie ever made - and I don’t have to leave this chair.

That is, at any given moment, one good movie vs all movies ever. Data sufficient.

Re: Barry Diller: The movie business as before is finished and will never come back

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Post by zarq »

lostlogin wrote: post #264
wolverine876 wrote: post #255

Barry: Call me. I'll show you where you can find great art in movies, an order of magnitude more than what was available before. I'm a big believer in data and not personal anecdotes, but if I can do it, Barry can (and you can). I never imagined so much incredible art existed on video as what I've seen in the last 5+ years on streaming. The standard for what I will watch has risen dramatically - I don't have to compr…

> I rarely go to movie theaters because what is available on streaming is so much better, it's not a close call. Better seats, better sound (for me this means not being deafened), better food, better drinks, better price (and no dick moves to get a few more $), no parking issues, less annoying lights/sounds etc from other patrons. I also haven’t seen a theatre with a wood burner. It misses is the feeling of it being…

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