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Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Post by Mountain_Skies »

gabereiser wrote: post #99

This, and other instances of this scam make me not want to buy anything off Amazon ever again. Where is Amazon in this? Why is this even a thing ? Is there no oversight at all? Amazon has now become the Alibaba of the west and it makes me sick to think the once beloved marketplace is now just scamville. I typically buy from sellers websites now and rarely buy off of Amazon but now I feel I need to completely remove A…

While I still purchase some things from Amazon, anything that's to be ingested or involves supplying electrical current is a no. It's a sad day when GNC is a more reputable place to shop than Amazon.

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Post by kabbalf »

CliffStoll wrote: post #116

Guess I'd better say a few things. First, I deeply appreciate that so many on Hacker News have come out for this. Enough to awaken me from a sound sleep on a Tuesday evening! I don't really care that much about selling Klein bottles over Amazon - it's mainly to reach parents over the holidays. But I do wish that Amazon would do something about this kind of thing. Finally, I"m very low on stocks of glass Klein bottles…

Hey Cliff, just wanted to say that the Klein bottle I bought in 2014 or so is the best buying experience I’ve ever had. It’s still the only piece of home decoration I own. Thanks!

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Post by billpg »

eatonphil wrote: post #268
billpg wrote: post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait, your web server is a Raspberry PI, and its holding up while being on the HN front page. Do you have a caching service in front maybe?

From personal experience, any cheap vps that can serve static pages will stand the front of HN. The blogs that go down here typically back every request by MySQL (ahem, WordPress) which is totally unnecessary and often actively harmful since MySQL has very low default total connections allowed. The point being: don't serve requests backed by a database unless the results are likely to change very dynamically!

If you'll excuse me, I'm going to be looking at HTML cache add-ons for my WordPress site.

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Post by teh_klev »

wffurr wrote: post #254
bawana wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does anyone else see 10 vertical lines of characters that look like the ‘matrix’ font overlaid on the word ‘yog so Thoth’ in the last two lines of qwertious’ post?

That's He Who Shall Not Be Named's hand reaching into the material world, making himself known to all who would dare parse HTML with regular expressions.

And signalling the immanentizing of Tony the Pony.

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Post by gerdesj »

technothrasher wrote: post #243
bawana wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does anyone else see 10 vertical lines of characters that look like the ‘matrix’ font overlaid on the word ‘yog so Thoth’ in the last two lines of qwertious’ post?

Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn

A small dog has just materialised and widdled on my foot. Please be careful when summoning the Old Ones.

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Post by TheHypnotist »

gabereiser wrote: post #99

This, and other instances of this scam make me not want to buy anything off Amazon ever again. Where is Amazon in this? Why is this even a thing ? Is there no oversight at all? Amazon has now become the Alibaba of the west and it makes me sick to think the once beloved marketplace is now just scamville. I typically buy from sellers websites now and rarely buy off of Amazon but now I feel I need to completely remove A…

Anything with an unfamiliar and suspicious sounding brand, such as AMVOOM, is a non starter for me. I actually started researching brands.

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Post by larrybud »

tomaskafka wrote: post #97
xvector wrote: post #2

These days I avoid Amazon where possible since so often it's just cheap Chinese knockoffs or obviously returned products sold as new. B&H has been a godsend for tech, especially since there's no tax with their card. Crutchfield/Headphones.com has been great for speaker and audio gear. West Elm has a consistently premium quality for kitchen, home, and furniture items (though furniture is a story of its own, with even…

> Wirecutter, NyMag, and Consumer Reports all perform unbiased testing of multiple products in almost every product segment I can think of. Oh no, they absolutely don't. Wirecutter performs some subjective testing, but they get paid for a choice of a products to test and promote. If you watch any category for a while, you can witness a top product (or multiple top products of a same brand) disappear overnight to be b…

That’s a pretty strong accusation to make. Do you have evidence?

Wirecutter says “our writers and editors are never made aware of or influenced by which companies have affiliate relationships with our business team.”

And elsewhere on the site: “The reputation of Wirecutter and its parent company, The New York Times, rests on our vigorous reporting, editorial integrity, and avoidance of actual or even perceived conflicts of interest.”

Are you saying this is a lie / outright deception?

And, fwiw, they indeed still review & recommend Anker changers; see this review where the #1 choice is currently an Anker model: https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-multiport-us...

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Post by eatonphil »

billpg wrote: post #273
eatonphil wrote: post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From personal experience, any cheap vps that can serve static pages will stand the front of HN. The blogs that go down here typically back every request by MySQL (ahem, WordPress) which is totally unnecessary and often actively harmful since MySQL has very low default total connections allowed. The point being: don't serve requests backed by a database unless the results are likely to change very dynamically!

If you'll excuse me, I'm going to be looking at HTML cache add-ons for my WordPress site.

Yes you can do that or there are static site generators backed by MySQL too. So your data and configuration site can still be dynamic but your served site will be completely static.

The only difference between this and adding a cache is that the cache is another piece of software in your production stack.

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Post by praptak »

syshum wrote: post #253
praptak wrote: post #184

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Which makes you wonder why Amazon keeps this scam-enabling "feature". Do legit sellers really need it that much that Amazon keeps it despite the scams?

There is not much to wonder about, Amazon does it because it critical to their fulfillment service, one of the key ways amazon makes money and keeps it 1-2 day delivery times is inventory mixing, i.e if you order from Seller X, you may actually get Stock that Seller Y shipped in. This is why they need to merge listings into 1. It is also why there is soo much fraud on Amazon, and I dont believe they will ever fix it,…

Do I understand correctly that seller X might get their reputation damaged if Seller Y shipped some counterfeit crap?

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Post by s_fischer »

RobertoG wrote: post #137
dflock wrote: post #6

That sucks. Nice write-up of how this scam works, I wasn't aware of the details previously. Also, if anyone is unaware, this is this Clifford Stoll: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clifford_Stoll - who wrote this brilliant (and true) book: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cuckoo%27s_Egg_(book) - which is a really good read and perfect for HN.

>>"Nice write-up of how this scam works, I wasn't aware of the details previously." I still don't understand how it works. Why can somebody owning something called "Amvoom" claim something called "Acme Klein Bottle"? An even if they legally own the brand, how keeping the reviews when moving the brand to the new owner is the proper thing to do for the customers? By definition, the reviews are for another provider. I d…

My best guess is that amazon is using the entities associated with the registered trademark as some form of proof of identity. So since there was no registered trademark for Acme Klein Bottle, there was nothing to compare the new identity to when Amvoom submitted their request.

I really hope I'm wrong though because this sounds like a very lazy and flawed system.

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