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Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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post #166

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Laminated menus that you can spray and wipe off would make a lot more sense.

It’s as if Denny’s has been ahead of the game all a long

Assume you're disgusting, work backwards from there.

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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When they work well, they're really good, but when they work badly, they're _really_ bad. The other week, I went for dinner at a place that had a online ordering system. My experience was as follows... Arrive at the table, scan the QR code No phone signal in the restaurant, so I need to connect to the wifi. Connect to the wifi, get a captive portal Need to put my phone number in to connect to the wifi; there is no si…

Where do they work well? I still have to pull out my phone and switch to the camera app, open a browser to whatever link is in the qr code. This process is already too many points of failure.

Not to mention tedious

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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On the other hand, pathogens survive longer on a smooth surface than on a rough absorbant surface, and I would guess that they are more likely to be transferred from a smooth surface onto somebody's hand than from a rough absorvant surface. So, taking account of people perhaps not doing all that spraying and wiping properly, a paper menu might turn out to be safer after all.

I could be wrong, as I often am, but I think getting covid from a surface is recently proven to be highly unlikely.

They have known this since april 2020, it was a German scientist that first tested this I believe.

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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post #254

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It smacks of entitlement when dining at a restaurant is considered basic necessity and preparing your own meals is considered a luxury. Think about history. Think about the vast, vast majority of people on earth. Consider just how entitled one must be to have the help prepare your basic necessities of life.

By that argument, indoor plumbing and safe running water can also be considered luxuries. Which, while true, is rather reductivist. And if we want to talk history, having food made for you by other rather than making it yourself is not a new thing. Having a servant or a wife/mother/grandmother making you dinner was far more common in the past than it is now. I'd probably guess that more people know how to cook and co…

Stirring Mac and cheese or warming a Hot Pocket is not on the same level as roasting a pig and such, but I agree with the local point you're making.

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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Assuming there was another restaurant nearby, I'd have simplified the process to "go outside". If a restaurant is too cheap to print a menu, why should I consider it good enough for me?

With covid, many restaurants removed paper menus to avoid transmission. I hate QR codes so that was a move I was not in favour of.....

That’s indeed why they did it, which is silly because there’s zero evidence that paper restaurant menus are a significant risk of covid transmission. It’s pure hygiene theater.

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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post #232

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I can already see myself, as a tourist who buys a US SIM card to get data on vacation, having to add a SIM card swap to this ordeal to confirm debit card transaction via my EU phone number. Why, oh why...

Aren't most smartphones dual-sim by now?

Only in some nations.

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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post #264

How long before someone exploits this? - Build an app that injects malware but also shows the restaurant's menu. Give it the same name as the restaurant. - Go to the restaurant, overlay your QR code sticker on top of the restaurant's. - When someone scans the code they are asked to install "[Restaurant's name] menu", obviously they are going to do it. - They open the app -> malware is activated, menu is shown. Profit…

That exploit would only work once.

As soon as the first customer, who gets charged $20 or whatever, reports that they didn’t get their meal it would be checked.

And then it would be pretty easy to find out when the QR codes were replaced. Then camera footage of that person would be sent to the police and they would be up for fraud. Great exploit.

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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First: I am from germany, so, my perspective may differ from other parts of the world... and due to the pandemic, my last meal eaten in an restaurant was in the early beginnig of 2020. But i really never, never encountered a menu via QR Code... why would anyone want this?! If you are going to eat out, then it is (at least with the people i know) considered ab-so-lu-tely rude to even get your phone out (unless you are…

I had never seen it in the US either before the pandemic.

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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post #222

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I would argue that doesn't quite qualify as human readable ... Surely something like https://restaurant.tld/menu would make more sense ...

After 20 years of web, I still see commercially printed URLs on signs/buildings/cars/etc that do not understand redirects. I saw http://www.ourcompany.com/sub/registration.aspx on printed on a glass door the other day - looked like etching at first, but may have something else? This was at a local theater/event space, IIRC. "ourcompany.com/register" is infinitely more understandable, and unsure why no one in the chai…

There are a bunch of trucks outside my house at the moment laying fiber cabling. The email address for the company is basically 'buildingcompany.co.uk@gmail.com' and this isn't a tiny firm.

It left me wondering whether the bosses if the company just don't care or if they were told by the web design company they hired for their site that it'd add thousands to the website cost and decided against it.

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