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Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Anyone has a good guess why Microsoft needed to bump the version? All of these updates seems something that can be easily updated to Windows 10 in several or one half year update. Is this something related to it's corporate clients or licensing services? Really can't understand why a need to create a new version with so much hype, when they've announced in the past that W10 will be the last Windows version.

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Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Looks like AMD systems might mostly be coming back as "This PC can't run Windows 11." > Trusted Platform Module (TPM) version 2.0 Possibly most AMD motherboards don't have TPM integrated? I don't know a lot about TPM though. Someone said... > enable tpm in your bios i did it and it worked for me, I have a 3080, 5800x, 16gb of ram EDIT: My motherboard (Asus Prime X470 Pro) lists TPM as a separate module you buy, but t…

Thanks for this info. Supposedly the fTPM should work with Ryzen CPUs and offer TPM 2.0, but I can't confirm now either. Similar deal to yours, my Gigabyte x570 board offers TPM cards: https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/TPM-Card . I am assuming this is unnecessary tho, but good to know.

Posting from the other Windows 11 post, I can confirm that a Ryzen fTPM will get a checkmark from the PC Health tool at least.

Screenshot of the security processor page: https://i.imgur.com/ZWtq8EO.png

Screenshot of the PC health check: https://i.imgur.com/Rb3eZIc.png

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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A second-hand Windows 10 Pro license costs like $25 (and used to be $5). That's a pretty small price for a substantially better experience.

This is false. A pirated Windows 10 Pro license costs like $25. These are not legitimate licenses, they're overprovisioned enterprise keys being sold in violation of the license agreement. And yes, they register differently in Windows, and can be easily detected. (Command is slmgr /dli) Like, if you want to pirate software, go pirate software. If you're going to pay someone on a per-install basis for pirated keys, I'…

For $25 I can get a legitimate Windows 7 Pro license sticker that works like any Windows 10 license, which is perfectly legal all the way through.

But depending on your jurisdiction, the $5 enterprise keys can also be entirely fine. Sure, in a way that's outsourcing piracy. But the law doesn't have to see it that way. There's nothing illegal about buying enterprise keys, and if they are overprovisioning keys that's between them and MS, I can't even know if that's the case.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Did something change? (Windows users/developers have always been able to use various distribution systems... likewise for macOS.

The change is that their current Windows Store is a tumbleweed wasteland with astonishingly little uptake, so Microsoft has offered some partners (I presume it's a subset or it'll just become a scam central) like Adobe to put themselves "on" the store, but not actually on it. Basically a package manager.

The announcement was that "bring-your-own-commerce" platform was going to be open to all developers (it is becoming basically a package manager), except for things categorized as Games, where presumably existing Xbox rules still take priority.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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So to summerize what they have announced (so far) - * A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? * A new start menu design * Windows have rounded corners * Some built in apps such as the Xbox app and Microsoft Store have been redesigned (Xbox Game Pass and xCloud built into the Xbox app) * New touch keyboard (SwiftKey?) with improved…

> * A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup I refuse. There better be easily accessible versions without this requirement.

There is a workaround for now: just press Alt-F4

See https://www.neowin.net/news/windows-11-home-requires-interne...

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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post #94

So to summerize what they have announced (so far) - * A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? * A new start menu design * Windows have rounded corners * Some built in apps such as the Xbox app and Microsoft Store have been redesigned (Xbox Game Pass and xCloud built into the Xbox app) * New touch keyboard (SwiftKey?) with improved…

> A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? This is confirmed on the Windows 11 specification site: > Alignment to the bottom of the screen is the only location allowed. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifica...

Well, hopefully something like this app still works https://github.com/CrypticButter/ButteryTaskbar (it makes it so the Taskbar is only visible when you press the Win key).

I switched to having the taskbar on the left in 1999 or so, then when I got a super ultrawide monitor I just realized I don't need/want it visible at all and found the program linked to above.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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So many questions… Will Win10 users be able to upgrade to Win11 for free or will they have to buy it? What’s the end-of-life date for Win10 now? Will the minimum hardware requirements be increased? Will this be used as an opportunity to make backwards-compatibility-breaking improvements? Are they actually going to fix the whole UI or just 80% of it and leave the remaining 20% as sedimentary layers of previous UIs? An…

It's free and it's minimum requirements are bumped massively.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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What I don’t get is hospitals buying things like MRI scanners, with Windows based “controller” with no upgrade path. The hospital, and the manufacturer, knows that the version of Windows they’re running will be EOL before the hardware, yet nobody ask the manufacturer how they plan to deal with that fact. The promise of Windows 10 being the last Windows could have but an end to that nonsense.

Why does it matter? Just don't connect it to the internet and there should be no issue. Why would you want to update software that could potentially break your super expensive machine if it already works?

So what you’re saying is, this can’t have happened because nobody would be dumb enough to buy a convenient Internet-enabled smart device and then actually connect it to the Internet:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2017/05/17/wanna...

And also that this problem definitely won’t get worse as more and more of these devices are built on platforms that want to require you to sign in with a cloud service…

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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The Dock isn't the equivalent to the Start Menu, the closest Mac equivalent is the Apple menu. That dates back to I think the very beginning of the Macintosh, and particularly in the classic era (Mac OS 1 through 9) shared a lot more in common with the Start menu. When Apple was just first barely dipping a toe in the waters of multitasking applications with the 1987 MultiFinder, the Apple menu let you switch between…

Nice history lesson, but for all intents and purposes the Dock _is_ equivalent to the Start Menu, as both are the main ways to start or switch applications for most users. The Apple menu has nothing to do with running applications in modern macOS versions.

The start menu is a single button, whereas the dock is a large number of icons. Corner aligning the dock would do no good, as any icon other than the one in the corner wouldn't be corner aligned either.

Regardless of how you see the function parity between the two, the corner alignment argument just doesn't hold here.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

#280

Hmm, nice improvements, but is it just me who doesn’t care about them at all? Most of them feels like change just for the sake of change, but not an actual improvement.

There is a severe bump in hardware requirement. Prob the main reason the even did this (big enough to warrant some kind of LTS). Obviously that doesn't sell so there so other random changes
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