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Researchers fear a scenario in which smart speakers feed sleepers subliminal ads

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Re: Researchers fear a scenario in which smart speakers feed sleepers subliminal ads

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post #110

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Seems like it was a subliminal ad for Futurama then.

nah, that was the hypnotoad....

The hypnotoad isn't subliminal, it obvious and total mental domination.

All hail the hypnotoad!

Re: Researchers fear a scenario in which smart speakers feed sleepers subliminal ads

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Off topic, and I realize this was not at all your point/belief, but it's quite incredible that the article is brining up this quote from Roger Waters as an example of his 'anti-semitism'...

I'm no fan of him and i'm not knowledgeable, but from a quick search the only thing antisemitic i could see from him was using on stage a pig with a david star and a dollar sign (sigh). Not that it's ok at all, but is he known for other antisemitic displays/rhetoric? Or is fighting against Israel's apartheid and denouncing that politicians are sold to billionaires now antisemitic? I'm really not OK with the "jews = m…

Fortunately, the claim the Israel is an apartheid state appears to be false, according to those who lived through apartheid. [1] [2]

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcEL-NlxBk0

[2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocNttZV4G_0

Re: Researchers fear a scenario in which smart speakers feed sleepers subliminal ads

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Is there guaranteed no ads with Premium or do they still put ads in there? I mean some streaming services and of course the old paid cable TV did.

Guaranteed no ads injected by YT, but don't forget that already most popular YT content includes ads inside the video, as a small bit of informercial style content somewhere in the middle of the video.

At least you can scrub past those for now

Re: Researchers fear a scenario in which smart speakers feed sleepers subliminal ads

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post #54

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Then you must like Safari more than you despise ads.

There is no alternative on ios. I choose not to watch videos on mobile over using android.

This is why I pretty much stopped using mobile internet on my phone outside of looking up stuff on maps or maybe wikipedia. The mobile web is unusable now on iOS. I have a ~5 inch long screen, most websites give me an inch of readable space between the banner ad and the massive autoplaying video ad consuming the bottom of the screen, and the footer ad. All of them have the tiniest close button imaginable, even using my index finger can lead to fat fingering it and clicking some ad that instantly takes me to some entirely unrelated app on the app store instantly, or fakes a popup notification that my device is compromised. Even if I do manage to successfully hit close, another ad pops up in that space a few seconds later. Its like the internet before ad blockers in the early 2000s, full of malware in the ads.

Re: Researchers fear a scenario in which smart speakers feed sleepers subliminal ads

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Is there guaranteed no ads with Premium or do they still put ads in there? I mean some streaming services and of course the old paid cable TV did.

Guaranteed no ads injected by YT, but don't forget that already most popular YT content includes ads inside the video, as a small bit of informercial style content somewhere in the middle of the video.

On desktop there's the SponsorBlock extension, which skips them using a crowdsourced list of timestamps.

https://github.com/ajayyy/SponsorBlock

Re: Researchers fear a scenario in which smart speakers feed sleepers subliminal ads

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Another data point confirming that the advertising industry is actively hostile towards consumers.

Isn't it what it's supposed to be? I mean, their purpose is to persuade me do something that I otherwise wouldn't want to do (usually, to buy some product). How is this not hostile to begin with?

Advertising used to be benign things like alerting farmers to an improved plowing technology in a trade magazine. Then companies realized they could get away with selling an unneeded/worse/disposable product if they just outright lied about it, and took advantage of the goodwill the public had towards advertisements to reap profit.

Re: Researchers fear a scenario in which smart speakers feed sleepers subliminal ads

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Every morning I ask my three-year old if she dreamt something nice. "No", she said a few weeks ago, "just ads".

I have an 8 yo that _really_ wants to do videos. Just this morning, she helped her mother cook the meal, but she wanted to roleplay as if she was recording a YT video like the ones she watches. It was honestly hilarious - I was HW just across a door - but at the same time frightening when you think about how much this new media permeates our society. P.S.: Having already lost the war with my daughters from a previous…

That's just what kids do for fun. When I was growing up, we were reenacting scenes from Jackass.

Re: Researchers fear a scenario in which smart speakers feed sleepers subliminal ads

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This is so absurd. Does anyone seriously think that these companies would get away with advertising to you in your sleep without your consent? Even if it's opt-in, what possible reason would they use justify it that would get people to give their consent? If they have a good enough reason to get people to sing on, who cares?

This just seems like academic mania fueled by media-driven mistrust of BigTech and has no basis in the reality of business-customer relationships

Re: Researchers fear a scenario in which smart speakers feed sleepers subliminal ads

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I never appreciated Futurama when I was younger. At the time it felt like worse Simpsons but in the future. But later on I realized it’s a really good critique of our contemporary society disguised as the future looking back on us with Fry standing in for the audience. Some of the jokes are funny because they’re so biting.

A _lot_ of sci-fi in general is social commentary and/or recreational sociology. By moving the setting to an unfamiliar one, you can make parallels to back to _familiar_ societies in a way that allows the audience to see them with a new eye. It's a nice trick to get around familiarity blindness and sidestep some biases.

Most stories are in general, but sci-fi in particular looks at society, politics, and their relationship to technology. Sci-fi frequently addresses issues of wealth inequality. I'm always amazed at how many people didn't realize Blade Runner was a critique on Reganomics.
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