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Replit used legal threats to kill my open-source project

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Re: Replit used legal threats to kill my open-source project

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> Naturally, I took down my project right away... So a CEO bullied you. He threatened to have lawyers look at something, accused you of behaving poorly, and accused you of being difficult. He is being manipulative. He is trying to guilt / scare you into stopping. And it worked. For all readers... do not be afraid of lawyers. Especially if nobody has even talked to them yet. Lawyers do not like to lose cases, so will…

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Re: Replit used legal threats to kill my open-source project

#272

> Naturally, I took down my project right away... So a CEO bullied you. He threatened to have lawyers look at something, accused you of behaving poorly, and accused you of being difficult. He is being manipulative. He is trying to guilt / scare you into stopping. And it worked. For all readers... do not be afraid of lawyers. Especially if nobody has even talked to them yet. Lawyers do not like to lose cases, so will…

"If I were in the same situation as OP, I'd state that my intent was positive,"

My attorney: Never respond ever.

Re: Replit used legal threats to kill my open-source project

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If I’m reading those emails correctly, Amjad the CEO directly emailed you occasionally. It is pretty stunning that as the CEO of the company, he would stoop to what I interpret as pretty unprofessional communication and petty threats. I also am failing to connect the dots about why Replit would even feel threatened - if you were as helpful of an intern as described, you’d think they would recognize that you had good…

I think the CEO is absolutely nuts here. With that said, I also think certain employees though have a very slippery mentality of this sort of vibe where they do things that might be sketchy or on the borderline not OK (but JUST on the line), and then rationalize as "but ... reason!". The tone of this whole article is very subtly reminiscent of that... the type of person that when given an inch will take 10 inches (no…

I agree about the tone, but I think it comes from youthful inexperience and a lack of (legal) knowledge. OP has no idea where the line is, what the lines are, or what professional legal defense would actually require/entail. And so they're stuck trying to rationalize every possibly-defensible point in the court of public opinion.

Also, a good way to get employees that aren't testing boundaries is to hire experienced developers rather than interns who are still learning the world.

Overall I don't see what leg repl.it has to stand on here - their product relies on taking numerous free software packages and bundling them into proprietary software, and yet they have the gall to consider button placement some secret sauce?! But it also depends on what OP's employment contract says and when he actually developed this. Altogether, this really just looks like a case of a CEO personally bullying someone else because they can.

Re: Replit used legal threats to kill my open-source project

#274

Vote me down, but Ycombinator: "It's all about the founders blah blah blah" - if their process finds and funds these kind of people, the process is broken. https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/repl-it

Is it broken? Based on historical evidence, signal that implies a strong startup founder does not necessarily imply a gentleman.

Let's iterate some famous startup founders. I could totally see them going off like this. Steve Jobs? Check. Elon Musk? Check.

Not defending bad behavior, but from point of view VC bad behavior is not necessarily a dealbreaker if they can deliver a unicorn.

Re: Replit used legal threats to kill my open-source project

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Wild. A better CEO would have made you an acquhire offer to work at Replit. I would be shocked if you don't get blow back/more threats from the CEO for posting these emails.

They were already offering him a job.

And they might have gotten him back on the team if they hadn't spectacularly blown it.

Re: Replit used legal threats to kill my open-source project

#276

> Naturally, I took down my project right away... So a CEO bullied you. He threatened to have lawyers look at something, accused you of behaving poorly, and accused you of being difficult. He is being manipulative. He is trying to guilt / scare you into stopping. And it worked. For all readers... do not be afraid of lawyers. Especially if nobody has even talked to them yet. Lawyers do not like to lose cases, so will…

Sorry, are you going to pay my legal fees?

If yes, please by all means reach out.

Re: Replit used legal threats to kill my open-source project

#277

Haven't used replit, our product is still in stealth and we're looking for funding, but tbh I'd love to have you work (part-time remote or whatever) for us. Im quite discombobulated on why they are doing this instead of offering you a job. I say good job Radon and if you ever want a job doing open things for fun where a company wont't sue you afterwards, ping. This behaviourk... it is not just unethical from their si…

> Im quite discombobulated on why they are doing this instead of offering you a job.

In fairness, they are doing this as well as offering him a job (see the second email screenshot in the article).

Re: Replit used legal threats to kill my open-source project

#278

Guys, I don’t know what this is about yet, but I know amjad (ceo). And I know that whatever is going on here, his intentions were pure. He’s proven himself to me that he’s pretty much the opposite of a sleezy corporate ceo who crushes intern side projects while twirling his mustache. I just wanted to encourage everybody to chill on it for a moment and wait to see what’s up, because my spidey senses are screaming “mis…

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Re: Replit used legal threats to kill my open-source project

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A fancy funded company like Replit getting scared by an intern's weekend project is entertaining. If your moat is so low it can be replicated in a few days, I think this open source project is the least of their worries.

Agreed... but the intern is obviously incredibly naive in thinking that repl.it would be happy to see one of their ex-interns working on a project that does pretty much the same kind of thing they're doing... whether or not this is a threat to them right now. There's a tiny, but non-zero chance, that this project could become successful and who knows, take marketshare from repl.it... and while everyone is pretending…

It's pretty much understood that your institutional knowledge will go for a walk in this industry. Taking it personally is more unprofessional than what the intern did.

> it is clearly doing the exact same thing... how is that not at least "stealing the idea"?? Just don't do that.

Ideas aren't worth the paper they're written on, and a startup founder should know that better than anyone else. Hell, wasn't Fairchild "the same idea" as Shockley Semi?

I have a lot of respect for what repl.it is and their vision, and the intern did not come close to copying it. But I did lose a bit of respect for the current leadership if this is how they respond to toy reimplementations of certain features.

Re: Replit used legal threats to kill my open-source project

#280

If the CEO didn’t throw a tantrum over the exact things his company claims to support (OSS, creativity, etc.), nobody would know about the intern’s weekend project. But he did, and now we’ll see something of a Streisand effect [0]. To be fair, it is kind of suspect to intern for a company and, at the end of that internship, turn around and create effectively the same thing. And OP’s dismissive tone and propensity to…

Is it really? It's what he learned to do at the company, so now he's doing it.

If the product was really unique, maybe. But from the description it seems to be a generic online repl.

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