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Firefox Release 89.0

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Re: Firefox Release 89.0

#271

I don't like the removal of tab separators. Now all the background tabs kind of merge into one large mega tab :( for example - https://i.ibb.co/p4LWvtb/2021-06-01-19-12-43-3841x169.png

that and the container highlight has moved to the top of the tab. On windows 10, i am having a difficult time identifying which tabs are in a container and which are not...

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

#272
post #83

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Last major Firefox UI overhaul was... Firefox 57, the first Quantum release, in November 2017. It's had various tweaks since, but my day to day experience has been the same since then. This is not an absurd pace of UI change in my opinion. And yes it is a conceptually simple UI, but with the whole stuff around the web with security, permissions, tab and window management and how an awful lot of modern computer use by…

Your day to day experience isn't necessarily the same as everyone else's. It hasn't been long since "View page info" was confined to a hidden menu and all context menu labels were changed for absolutely no reason.

Can’t remember the last time I used ‘View Page Info’, I usually just bring up the dev tools and click the mouse icon to get to the area I want to see.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

#273
post #270

Does anyone feel that this new UI brings notable improvement? I don't think it is much worse, other than taking some extra vertical space but for the most part my reaction is "meh". I feel like these resources could have been spent much better in other parts of the browser. Am I missing some reason why this is worth the investment?

Besides floating tabs I find rest of Proton overhaul pretty good: better contrast, subjectively nicer colours, better focus styles, nice icons. After removing all corner rounding and tweaking tab bar I am quite happy.

Care to share the CSS for removing the rounded corners?

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

#274

I find it infuriating how designers keep adding more and more whitespace and padding on my desktop computer. If you want to make your UI easier to use on touch devices that's fine, but Windows 10 has a tablet mode that I keep disabled, so there's no reason to assume I'm not using a mouse. If I go to Customize toolbar there's three density options: Touch, Normal, and Compact (not supported). Why aren't there a support…

'Compact' is flagged as not supported but looks like it still works.

How do you turn it on? I don't see it.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

#275
New tabs are gross. Wastes so much space. Luckily there is that Firefox-UI-Fix linked elsewhere in this thread. Pretty much wanted to complain after upgrading and found that repo, which fixed most my complaints. Sadly I now have to make sure I keep that maintained ...

I'm really unhappy with the UI changes.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

#276
post #24

> "We’ve redesigned and modernized the core experience to be cleaner, more inviting, and easier to use." Why does the UI change with every single Firefox release? I find myself having to re-adjust every time a new update is shipped. What's wrong with having a consistent experience that survives for more than 6 months? It's just a URL bar, and a bunch of tabs. Just leave it be already.

UI design is like fashion design, often trying to catch your eye. Sometimes trying to be edgy or controversial, to provoke a reaction.

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Re: Firefox Release 89.0

#277
post #223

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idk. I kind of trust that the firefox team has competent designers that know what they are doing. Perhaps they found some issues in usability studies, tested a redesigned that fixed those, and sent the patch in the current release.

It also got through Nightly and Beta/Developer releases without enough negative feedback to sink it.

Has something which made it into Beta ever been reverted prior to release due to negative feedback from users testing it? From the outside that just doesn't appear to be a thing they use the beta channel for.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

#278

Earlier quoted context omitted.

UI design is like fashion design, often trying to catch your eye. Sometimes trying to be edgy or controversial, to provoke a reaction.

'Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months.' I see that the Firefox UI designers agree that it's like fashion design...

The Devil Wears Proton

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

#279
The only way for Firefox to survive and have a slight chance of beating Chrome is finishing[1] conversion to Rust[2] - it will allow to spend less time chasing memory bugs and focus on what matters. Also to reuse some of the already-written crates as building blocks.

[1] https://4e6.github.io/firefox-lang-stats/

[2] https://wiki.mozilla.org/Oxidation

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

#280

I find it infuriating how designers keep adding more and more whitespace and padding on my desktop computer. If you want to make your UI easier to use on touch devices that's fine, but Windows 10 has a tablet mode that I keep disabled, so there's no reason to assume I'm not using a mouse. If I go to Customize toolbar there's three density options: Touch, Normal, and Compact (not supported). Why aren't there a support…

'Compact' is flagged as not supported but looks like it still works.

The searchbar looks odd now. Something weird going on with the font rendering as well (on Linux) ... ugh.

https://i.imgur.com/DEgnh2t.png

https://i.imgur.com/8lreTHi.png

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