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Techno finds its roots in tribal music. Its repetitive patterns allow deep self-reflection and strong connection to inner feelings. disclaimer: I love techno
What tribes? Where? When?
Techno is the sound of automation, or as one of the Detroit originators said, 'like James Brown and Kraftwerk stuck in an elevator together'.
An accurate history. Got to see where this music evolved from in real time. Worked in an all-black mailroom (except me) in the 70s where there was one station and one station only: Los Angeles’ KISS 106. You heard Cerrone, Cameo, Toto, Grandmaster Flash, Prince, Teena Marie, Kool and the Gang, Black Russian, EWF—-the least formatted format on the market. It was a Cambrian explosion of dance music, much of which becam…
That sounds a lot like the Electrifying Mojo, mentioned in the article. Mojo played rock and other stuff too.
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That's nothing. Spain, 1999: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH9W5LRcVzk This was everywhere. Everywhere. People did their own remixes with computers at home. Everyone and their cat tried to do their first techno/trance song in High School. When "modern EDM" hit the US we have been listening to Techno/Trance since where, from 1992-1993? There were even official Techno/Trance remixes bought by everyone, too.
I really wish you'd stop with this smug condescension. You are utterly ignorant of the US music scene during this period, and in general, based on your comments. You seem to be basing your views on top 40 charts and what was protrayed in media. It's true, techno and electronica only rarely appeared there in the 90s. That's because electronica in the US was entirely centered around clubs and raves. Radio was controlle…
So was Spain. People shared music with each other. Radio? pop and rhythm & blues everywhere in top charts. While people IRL got into the clubs everywhere.
>The kind of music in your link has never been popular with electronica fans here. We find it manufactured banal empty trash to be blunt.
Here we had several substyles. As I stated, Andalusians were more fans of breakbeat, while the North liked progressive/proto-hardbass in 1999-2001 and the East with Valencia and its "route" among Barcelona was the Techno-Trance heaven. Ibiza longly was, was, it is, and it will be, THE "chill-out/house" genre place from Spain. For obvious reasons: partying tourism and a "hippie" vibe since the 60's.
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I believe I saw Godfather and some others in that vein at the first Detroit Electronic Music Festival back in 2000. Maybe in 2001. Sweet little Canadian me was ... shocked ... by the way people uh, danced to that stuff.
Hah, I bet, watching people dancing to it in Boiler Room videos is different enough from what I'm used to, and that's got to be a lot tamer than you'd see somewhere without cameras filming the entire thing! The first time I saw this clip it was amazing how distant it was from everything I've experienced since going to my first club in 1995 - and the video is from closer to 1995 than 1995 is to today! https://www.yout…
The DEMF dancefloor vibe while the booty stuff was playing was... raunchy. Like full on grinding, ass rubbing, etc. Didn't see that stuff at clubs here. The rave/club/techno scene back then here was pretty androgynous and public displays of affection would have been very gauche. Not so in Detroit at certain gigs
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Well, blues is the son of jazz music :) PD: I didn´t put Blues/Rock as separate entities, but two genres where late blues albums could be considered something as proto-rock. And ditto with jazz-swing-blues. It's like a continuum.
More like the father!
I've been listening to techno (not EDM in general, Techno) since the 90s. It's definitely my favorite music for deep work; something about the tight repetitive loops is just perfect for concentration. Since the pandemic started I've been listening to techno mixes almost constantly in order to mask the noise from everyone else in my house. Initially, I found it difficult to find decent mixes since Techno has become a…
Just to pitch in a suggestion for anyone looking: NTS radio and boiler room both have a huge number of mixes by techno artists - generally speaking I find artists by listening to mixes on NTS and checking the track list and then find mixes by them on boiler room.
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> Why guilt? GP made it seem like whites being a big part of current techno scene is bad. > The first stuff anyone started calling techno was pretty black you could say the first stuff anyone started calling electronic music was pretty white. point is, racial attribution for something that has a huge array of influences is silly. > unheard of racial unity going on yes, the way it should be.
> GP made it seem like whites being a big part of current techno scene is bad. I don't see that; I don't see any "guilt", using your word. Can you point it out? People have other motives. My impression is that you brought your own (reactionary?) bias to it, using a reactionary talking point whether it really applies or not. Why bring down someone who is trying to expand their experiences, knowledge, and community, in…
> using a reactionary talking point
???
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Why guilt? The first stuff anyone started calling techno was pretty black. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhtdRd9AuIs And that's OK, there's literally nothing wrong with this. I think there's also a lot of stuff to be said about how there's anecdotes about how the early rave scene had a lot of previously unheard of racial unity going on, stuff like skinhead and rasta gangs or even rival football ultras encountering…
> Why guilt? GP made it seem like whites being a big part of current techno scene is bad. > The first stuff anyone started calling techno was pretty black you could say the first stuff anyone started calling electronic music was pretty white. point is, racial attribution for something that has a huge array of influences is silly. > unheard of racial unity going on yes, the way it should be.
Detroit: is a land of wondrous musical invention, just new trends but whole new paradigms over and over, and it's never credited: Motown, of course; Punk (Iggy Pop & the Stooges, MC5 - name earlier punk!); Funkadelic (George Clinton et al); and Techno. At their heart they are creative, artistic, non-commercial (Motown being a big exception to the latter). Try to name other communities that match it, and give Detroit some due.
Techno: I've heard it described (by someone who would know) as the music of black middle class kids in Detroit. Think of what that means: Think of the historical implications, for the next generation after the civil rights era. Think of how rare that image is - today - in our public sphere, 'black middle class kids'. And from this perspective, to great disappointment, the black musical genre that America embraced was hip-hop, which sold itself as the stereotype many whites have of African-Americans: Poverty, violence, crime, lack of education, acting out, etc. That's what people associate with black kids - and that's what they bought - not futuristic techno; everyone in the world knows hip-hop is 'black' music; few outside techno know its origins. It makes me angry to this day. Here's a bit of that history, from the 313 (Detroit area code) techno mailing list:
http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/08.html
Through the 1990s, Juan Atkins, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson and the other techno pioneers, legends and stars elsewhere, were unknown in Detroit beyond the small techno community. Every summer in Hart Plaza downtown, Detroit hosts various weekend festivals, such as a large country music festival. In 2000 a new one was added to the schedule, the Detroit Electronic Music Festival. I can't express the shock, the bewilderment, of local Detroiters when a million people from around the world showed up - to Detroit? For electronic music? Why??? The visitors knew more than the locals. And I was there - my favorite musical memory - for the moment Derrick May, long ignored in his hometown, at last took to the turntables before a massive crowd in Detroit:
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> GP made it seem like whites being a big part of current techno scene is bad. I don't see that; I don't see any "guilt", using your word. Can you point it out? People have other motives. My impression is that you brought your own (reactionary?) bias to it, using a reactionary talking point whether it really applies or not. Why bring down someone who is trying to expand their experiences, knowledge, and community, in…
This confuses the heck out of me. I saw my comment as the more inclusive. > using a reactionary talking point ???