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The virus that causes the common cold can effectively boot the Covid virus out

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Re: The virus that causes the common cold can effectively boot the Covid virus out

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Exactly! Colds are poorly understood, and can be very dangerous. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4181476/

That link appears to be about the flu, not the common cold. They're different, but something I've learned over the past year is that most people think of the flu as another name for the common cold.

“Objectives: To define the epidemiology and outcomes of non-influenza respiratory viral infections in hospitalized adults.”

Re: The virus that causes the common cold can effectively boot the Covid virus out

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There is no virus that causes the common cold, so this is just more nonsense speculation. Do yourself and your lineage a favor and research Dr Hamer's Five Biological Laws. Saying virus particles are the cause of illnesss is like saying ashes are the cause of fire. Both are at the scene of the crime, and neither are at fault.

There's this type of pathogen called a virus, and some kinds of viruses can cause a respiratory condition known as a cold.

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No but you should not assume that defaulting to the victim's mindset will help your chances of survival. Your initial comment implied that nature has your best interest in heart; and your child comment is contradicting it? What's so hard about taking a cautious approach and proactively increase your chances of survival? I.e get to higher grounds (floods), evacuating(hurricanes), get vaccinated (covid + new diseases?)…

I don't have time to explain you anymore but I will say this. I'm liberal, pro God and pro Science. I don't have anything against God or nature taking my life away or improving it (evolution) and I don't have anything against defense mechanisms like natural disaster controls or public health measurements like vaccination but I want my freedom. Someone said vaccination is our evolution I agree maybe we are approaching…

Why do you think this pandemic isn’t worst than the previous? If you gauge by economic impact alone it can be the worst ever. The lower number of lives lost is because of quicker lockdowns, vaccines, advanced health care, and information networks

Re: The virus that causes the common cold can effectively boot the Covid virus out

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I am not sure I understand the statement about chess. It is important to understand that scientists are individuals with individual incentives. While some have an inherent drive towards getting closer to truths via the application of the scientific method, others may find other things more important. Abstracting "the science" from scientists is a convenient way of training other people in the acceptance of the propos…

Chess is an abstract set of rules not the thought process behind making a move or the physical action of moving a piece. As such nobody actually does chess. You can play chess, as in follow the rules, or be a scientist, as in contribute to the progress of science, but nobody is the physical embodiment of chess or science. Edit: To be as clear as possible, the President isn’t Democracy, but Democracy still exists in t…

> To be as clear as possible, the President isn’t Democracy

I am afraid I am lost.

Re: The virus that causes the common cold can effectively boot the Covid virus out

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I gave it as an example to close the debate fully, because I'm aware of this line of arguing. The point remains, (1) life will not be possible without the universe, (2) the universe exists, and (3) we do not have access to the knowledge about how the universe was created, nor before it was created.

Lets go to Wile E. Coyote for this one. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e2/f0/16/e2f0165777598a13c246... Anvils would not be possible without the universe ergo we cannot possible predict solely on our knowledge of Warner Brothers physics and prior plot lines that the anvil trap he is laying will fall on his own head comically flattening him yet somehow leaving him alive and ready to chase the road runner again in the…

I wonder what the odds are of a single Looney Tunes episode coming into being without intelligent design, let alone our infinitely more complex universe. I also wonder about Wile E's ability to comprehend the ways of Messrs. Hanna and Barbera.

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> If I'm reading that chart right, it is the percentage of sicknesses caused by each virus type, not the rate of sickness in the population. So we don't have information in this chart on the absolute prevalence. The change in relative rates may suggest which measures are relatively more effective on different viruses, but doesn't help us analyze the effectiveness of the current narrative. That's exactly correct, and…

If that's exactly correct why doesn't it always add up to 100%?

I’ve only spent a couple minutes looking at the plot, but it appears they don’t know why half the patients are showing symptoms in a normal year. This year, something new that they didn’t add to their test aggregation—I assume COVID—increased the “other” category and decreased the “flu” category. But note that means ~80% of the data is categorized as missing last year, so extrapolate this observation at your own risk.

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I think this will be my final reply on this topic. I appreciate you posting links to support your view, but I don't believe you're taking time to reflect on what I'm saying. > The fact that rhinovirus continues to circulate so widely This statement cannot be made from the link you posted. This is a rate. A frequency rate among sampled data. However it does not track the number of samples occurring. No amount of avera…

> This statement cannot be made from the link you posted. This is a rate. A frequency rate among sampled data. However it does not track the number of samples occurring. It does. Click the link [1]. Figure 2 [2] shows the number of samples . They explain it clearly: > The FilmArray RP test utilization rate (TUR) metric is defined as the non-normalized number of RP patient test results generated each week across the T…

Your statements seem mostly correct to me, but may be read in a misleading manner to imply the prevalence of colds is similar this year to past years. That data also does exist somewhere (since it was used to compute the plot in your first link), it just isn’t shown in that particular plot. From comparison to the paper, we seem to only have plot 1 for 2020, and not plot 2. Plot 1 (rates) showed the relative effects, but we need a link for plot 2 (counts) for 2020 before we can make statements about the absolute effects.

Hope that helps clear up the misunderstanding. And if you have a link to the counts data also, do share!

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"the tiniest creatures God in his wisdom put upon this earth" The writing is nice but flawed. Since War of the Worlds, we have advanced tremendously and no longer need intelligent design or creation myths to explain microorganisms. Reproducible, testable science demonstrates that in the primordial oceans, self-replicating molecules which were slightly better at self-replicating produced globules of matter capable of…

Science does not and will not be able to explain the origin of life. The statement still holds. It's very arrogant of us to assume otherwise.

Of course science informs us about the origin of life.

Science is a matter of theorization and subsequent development of confidence through testing theorization.

It is arrogant and manipulative to view science as black and white and then call everything white due to a lack of 100.000% confidence.

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Science does not and will not be able to explain the origin of life. The statement still holds. It's very arrogant of us to assume otherwise.

Of course science informs us about the origin of life. Science is a matter of theorization and subsequent development of confidence through testing theorization. It is arrogant and manipulative to view science as black and white and then call everything white due to a lack of 100.000% confidence.

It's simply a matter of science being limited to observations in the natural world. We will not be able to go back to before t=0 when the universe was created. Such knowledge is beyond the real of space and time, and we do not have access to it.
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