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Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by SpaceNugget » Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 8:24 PM UTC

tjoff wrote: post #158

aendruk wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thunderbolt uses USB-C since ~2015.

Point still stands.

No it doesn't.

USB Type-C is a connector shape, used by both USB and Thunderbolt. So people saying they want thunderbolt and you saying they should want USB Type-C doesn't make much sense.

Imagine someone in 2001 saying they are disappointed with new computers being released without USB 2.0 (i.e. still using USB 1.1), and you replying that things should be based on Type-A. Both USB 1.1 and USB 2.0 used Type-A connectors. The shape is unrelated to the protocol/speed/etc.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by pier25 » Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 8:26 PM UTC

Why do they use such ugly fonts for the keyboard? It's an immediate turn off.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by ptcampbell » Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 8:28 PM UTC

I like System 76 and I use Pop OS on a desktop PC. I don't know how else to say this but crikey, these machines are ugly.

Edit: I expect to be downvoted, and this is just my unhelpful, subjective opinion. But the font on those keys looks like one you'd get from a 90s shareware kit of 100 free fonts.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by throwaway744678 » Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 8:31 PM UTC

gmac wrote: post #267

tastyfreeze wrote: post #228

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I don't understand why many workstation-class laptops DONT have a num pads. It is so annoying to have to type long sequences of digits without one.

Perhaps because you can buy a separate numpad if you want one, and then have the best of both worlds: both a numpad and a centered keyboard?

Perhaps, one can just buy a mouse and have the best of both worlds?

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by tristor » Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 8:33 PM UTC

I want to love this, but the keyboard seems horrible. I know I'm exceptionally picky when it comes to keyboards, I usually just take a 60% mechanical keyboard with me, but I've been able to adjust to using the (non-crappy years) Macbook Pro keyboard and the Thinkpad keyboards while traveling, and generally find them acceptable. This keyboard though has really bad legends, an inexplicable numpad, and it takes up too much real estate when I'd rather have a trackpoint and a larger touchpad.

Also, the screen resolution and size seems odd. I'm okay with a 1080P screen... but not at nearly 16". This should be offered with a 3K or 4K screen only.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by spijdar » Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 8:33 PM UTC

pier25 wrote: post #272

Why do they use such ugly fonts for the keyboard? It's an immediate turn off.

Probably because it's (likely) a Clevo NL51RU or something similar and they use these gamer-y legends. [0]

[0] https://clevo-computer.com/media/image/15/da/88/CLEVO-NL51RU...

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by officeplant » Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 8:33 PM UTC

jacurtis wrote: post #216

foobarbecue wrote: post #93

Interesting choice of animal, given that Pangolins are suspected of being the source of the virus causing the COVID-19 pandemic. https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210210/did-the-new-coronav... All publicity is good publicity, I guess...

This was my immediate thought upon reading this. It is a very bizarre name choice given its potential connection to COVID-19 and that it was released during the ongoing global pandemic. Regardless of whether Pangolins are the true source of the pandemic (it is looking like that is becoming much less likely as time has gone on), the connection is still there in many people's mind and not what I would be naming my prod…

Given the Pangolin was used for Ubuntu 12.04 and System 76 has used previously referenced animals from Ubuntu's naming scheme before, I'd suspect that's why.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by willis936 » Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 8:34 PM UTC

Macha wrote: post #196

indymike wrote: post #181

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Would buy in a heartbeat if it had a 4k display. Hard to go back to 1080p after six years of Retina and 4K displays.

Honestly find it hard to notice much difference in the display quality between my 1080p 2018 XPS laptop and my 1800p 2019 Mac laptop. Actually the XPS is slightly preferable to me because the matte vs glossy finish outweighs the extra resolution at that size for me. I guess that could just be my sight, but the reviews for the XPS laptop vs the 4k model of the same were pretty much unanimous on the 4k variant being a…

I have an XPS 15 from around the same time and the 1080p display feels a little poor. What I notice most is the long pixel response time. I'd take a 1080p OLED over a 4K LCD anyday. I'd also take a 4K OLED over either any day as well. High refresh rate and/or backlight strobing would be nice to have as well. Battery life isn't as much of a concern to me. I know not all users have the same priority as me. It's nice that consumers have options.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by p1necone » Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 8:35 PM UTC

coldtea wrote: post #258

echelon wrote: post #254

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Because all laptop users make use of the screen.

A large number of laptop users just use them on the desktop, tethered to a big screen, in clamshell mode. This includes almost every vlogger setup one can find...

Surely this is just due to a lack of knowledge? If you're never going to use the portability, then you can get a much more powerful desktop than a laptop given the same amount of money.

Having a built in UPS is pretty sweet for some use cases though.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by taneliv » Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 8:35 PM UTC

fwip wrote: post #208

jbverschoor wrote: post #53

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It wasn't always the case. Also, Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc. have more than enough economy of scale. $1000 for the M1 air is not a huge premium. It's actually very cheap.

I don't think $1000 can be called "very cheap" when the median laptop price is around $650, and you can get basic Windows laptops for under $300.

Yet $1000 is cheaper than some phones from the same manufacturer. Which is, of course, an apples and oranges (pardon the pun) comparison. But boggles my mind, nevertheless.