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Re: Gitlab default branch name changes to main

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It reinforces black is bad and white is good. Also, deny list and allow list are more precise terms anyway.

>Also, deny list and allow list are more precise terms anyway. Are they? Black/whitelist feels way more natural to me. You can also say things like "blacklisted this ip" instead of "adding to the deny list" or something.

"I allowed this ip" "I denied this ip"

that these are stored in a particular data structure isn't the important part IMO

Re: Gitlab default branch name changes to main

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That doesn't infer the same relationship of dependency, but infers a parallel independent relationship. Not the same thing.

So in a master slave database setup, the slave does all the work while the master supervises?

That's... A really good argument.

Re: Gitlab default branch name changes to main

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Sounds like justification for capitulating to the woke nonsense and cancel culture to me. >....feels like we're now just looking for things to be offended by Exactly, no one should have ever listen to this nonsense. There is no end goal here being offended is the goal. Just imagine the millions of man-hours* of non-productive work this will cause over the next decades. *nothing here lol

> There is no end goal here being offended is the goal. Nop, it’s a mean. Being perceived as a victim is very bankable these days, so the craze will continue with more people being offended and asking compensations (often monetary) for it.

The people who are offended mostly aren't even the people who would get any kind of compensation. They are offended on behalf of others.

Re: Gitlab default branch name changes to main

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Please stop speaking up on behalf of African Americans without consulting their own opinion on this matter. I'm one and not even my Black friends care about this silly posturing from White progressives. We are frankly getting tired of this virtue signalling while the American society doesn't give a shit about actual Black problems. What is "rationality without empathy"? Have you tried getting off that armchair and tr…

Yes I have. Very weird for you to assume I don't. I don't live in America, however I am constantly reminded of my country's (The Netherlands) colonial past (you know, the spice trading, genocide inducing, slave trading one) and the repercussions of that. My city's suburban neighborhoods are filled with people of lower class of all different types of ethnicities. I've done as much as I could in the last few years to e…

As someone from a working class background, I find your use of the term "lower class" problematic. It suggests you somehow perceive me and my ancestors as beneath you, or that we have less inherent worth as human beings. We prefer the term "working class". I find it strange that you're so keen to tell others that using inclusive language is a non-issue, yet you yourself are perpetuating stereotypes by using exclusionary and hurtful language.

Re: Gitlab default branch name changes to main

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>if white color is racist also by containg all wavelengths, while black suffers by absencing visible light. This definition of white/black colors is context dependent. In some contexts white is defined as a combination of colors, and black is absence of colors. In some contexts (e.g. art) white is defined as absence of colors, and black is a combination of colors.

It is not a matter of context or definitions. It's a matter of the underlying physical process. Typical computer displays generate colors by adding light of different wavelengths. However, paint pigments generate colors by absorbing light of different wavelengths. Whether a system emits light directly, like a computer screen, or reflects incoming light, like a painted canvas, the perception of color is still determin…

Heh. I guess since I engaged in pedantry, I can't complain if others do as well.

I disagree though. Your argument is akin to complaining that we shouldn't use temperature because in the fundamental quantum field reality, there is no temperature. Or maybe you would complain about using various equation of fluid mechanics (all of which are at best approximations) instead of field equations to calculate behaviour of liquids. Or maybe complaining in programming that it is incorrect to reason about objects or monads because it's just bitshifts and logic gates underneath.

The notion in art that 'white is the absence of color, and black is a combination of colors' is a useful abstraction for that particular domain because the canvas is white, and black can be made by mixing paint colors. It is as real as anything else that we, as humans, engage in.

>the perception of color is still determined by the wavelengths of the photons reaching

Not quite right. Color is not a physical process. It is brain experience and does not exist independently. It is USEFUL to sometimes map physical wavelengths of light to colors but that is context dependent. Not only would different species experience color differently for some specific wavelength, but also different humans will experience them differently as well (color blindness is one example, another one is that you can train your brain to be more receptive to color variations)

Re: Gitlab default branch name changes to main

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Yes I have. Very weird for you to assume I don't. I don't live in America, however I am constantly reminded of my country's (The Netherlands) colonial past (you know, the spice trading, genocide inducing, slave trading one) and the repercussions of that. My city's suburban neighborhoods are filled with people of lower class of all different types of ethnicities. I've done as much as I could in the last few years to e…

As someone from a working class background, I find your use of the term "lower class" problematic. It suggests you somehow perceive me and my ancestors as beneath you, or that we have less inherent worth as human beings. We prefer the term "working class". I find it strange that you're so keen to tell others that using inclusive language is a non-issue, yet you yourself are perpetuating stereotypes by using exclusion…

You're right. My apologies. It is problematic and didn't think of the repercussions of translating my thoughts like that. I am capable of making mistakes, but don't mistake that for unwilling to do good or willfully being exclusionary or being hurtful on purpose.

EDIT: Also worth noting I am actually originally from those neighborhoods and I'm also raised in a working class family. I'm also working class by my country's standards.

Re: Gitlab default branch name changes to main

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I for one think it's great that people are willing to make things a little more accessible for more people. If people want to be part of our community of developers I think it's great that these organizations listen to people who might have a problem with certain terminology. Even though I don't have a problem with those terms, I think it's still worth evaluating if they're worth keeping if it makes it harder for som…

>There's also legitimate reasons to why these changes are necessary outside of some loud obnoxious screams from certain SJW-like people, that yes, are annoying to hear. Some of the response from our community to "push back against this" is just equally weird, tone deaf and childish however. I understand your perspective. I'm not against changing the term. We changed it in our product a few years ago (master-slave to…

> Many people don't want to accept the position that they were purposely insulting other people when these terms were in widespread use. True, but I think it's important to notice that you're not purposely insulting people until you start defending this terminology that can be oppressive for some people. Everyone in this entire thread had the opportunity to go "you know what, if this makes someone feel unwelcome, I get that. Perhaps a good idea to change it". It's when people start defending something that is both "so unimportant that they don't understand" but also super important that it doesn't change just gives a really weird vibe.

I just can't seem to understand why people are so unwilling to just be a little bit more welcoming, even if it is hypothetical according to them.

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