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The internet didn’t kill counterculture – you just won’t find it on Instagram

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Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture – you just won’t find it on Instagram

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I wonder if you could take payments in bitcoin to print out epubs/pdfs of books in high quality, bind them, and ship them to people. The bitcoin's to avoid the copyright ninjas; you could try to silk-road the whole operation. It'll be easier once we have better drones and automated cars.

Honestly, I'm more inclined to just mail someone some cash in exchange for their services printing/binding/mailing the book back. Seems a little more straightforward than transferring bitcoin and having a noisy drone drop a book on my lawn. Plus, why would I want all my transactions on a public ledger? ;)

I don't have any bitcoin, but I would pay extra to have a drone wake up my neighbor's dog every time I buy a book.

Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture – you just won’t find it on Instagram

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I think that FSM does satisfy your stricter definition of counterculture. Like the Church of Satan, one of the stated goals is to force legal examination of whether or not "freedom of religion" actually means "freedom to practice Christianity". LARPing and kink also have some opposition by fairly mainstream religious-types. They're seen as counterculture, even if they don't define themselves that way. Sorry. Changing…

Maybe the FSM is counter cultural but only in the way that housecats and lions are both felines. There is a very large difference between trying to hang Mike Pence or kill police and believing that established religions are illogical. Maybe it's slightly countercultural in the areas where Christianity or other religions predominate (which is not where I live).

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In your original comment, and to a lesser extent here, you seem to be saying that counterculture necessarily has negative connotations. I listed some counterexamples in another comment, but take "bronies" for another. Does the notion (grown men obsessing over a kids show) make people uncomfortable? Yeah, kinda... but is that because dominant culture says only girls should like ponies? Or is it because we assume men w…

Comparing to my comment[0], I think we're seeing a divergence in the meaning of "counter-culture" as either: a. Counter or opposing the dominant culture b. An uncommon or rare culture I argue in [0] that (a) is increasingly likely to be negative as society grows more just. However, as you mention, (b) can include all manner of neutral cultures, which are of course not necessarily negative. [0] https://news.ycombinato…

I largely agree with you, but for another example: sportsball. I went to a school that was real big on it. We had a Rival Team, with an annual The Big Game. I had family and friends at the Rival School. I can imagine a reality wherein I give a shit about sportsball. In that reality, I might find myself rooting for the Rival Team: I'd belong to a counterculture. Maybe I'm already in the counterculture because I don't give a shit about sportsball. I don't see sports disappearing should society become more just; I don't see such a counterculture being inherently negative.

Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture – you just won’t find it on Instagram

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YouTube is filled with so many interesting little channels. I wish the algorithms highlighted them more. I remember one channel of an old guy just smoking a cigar for an hour. Said nothing, just sat there. There were thousands of videos of him doing this, going back years. I don’t remember the name of it, unfortunately.

Can you share a few? YouTube always seems to stick me in a bubble and never recommends any worthwhile new channels.

Try vimeo.com instead. Lots of artists, quality on average is much higher than youtube.

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> I have never owned any mobile phone Eschewing a mobile phone has been pretty counterculture these recent years, but I think we are close to a point where it will no longer be sustainable, at least for anyone wanting to cross borders – or depending on the country, even enter a restaurant or concert. Several governments have announced that their vaccine passports will exist as mobile phone apps, because paper certifi…

I dont get why paper docs are still forgeable in this day and age. Just put a qr code on it containing the same info plus a digital signature, and have verifiers scan it with an app. That sounds a lot more secure than the enduser having an app that the verifier just looks at with their eyes.

The apps being discussed will generate QR codes that the verifier will scan. But these codes are meant to be limited-time codes, so that if a new COVID strain appears and the old vaccines don’t protect against it (or it turns out that annual boosters are necessary), the person will no longer be able to report as vaccinated but will go back to the unvaccinated category.

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The apps are expected to generate limited-time QR codes with the respective country’s digital signature (just like the biometric data in your passport), so no, your suggestion won't work.

Yup, because lowest-bid contractors are well known for producing bulletproof code, never copying bad samples from StackOverflow, and never rolling their own crypto instead of using proper libraries. Yup

States’ already turned to contractors to design the system of digital signatures on their biometric passports, but these passports remain secure, so your sarcasm is unfounded.

Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture – you just won’t find it on Instagram

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No, that's not the counterculture. Those are just bigots butthurt by the fact that society is starting to enforce norms of human decency which the counterculture has promoted through example for decades. Meanwhile a child who stands up for trans people is being censored. As in, actual censorship, by the government: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-commentary/canc...

LGBTQ+ are establishment identities. Being straight with a nuclear family is counter culture. In 2021 Rolling Stone magazine is the epitome of establishment culture media.

Really? Most people I know are straight and in nuclear families.

Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture – you just won’t find it on Instagram

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Yup, because lowest-bid contractors are well known for producing bulletproof code, never copying bad samples from StackOverflow, and never rolling their own crypto instead of using proper libraries. Yup

States’ already turned to contractors to design the system of digital signatures on their biometric passports, but these passports remain secure, so your sarcasm is unfounded.

And guess what... they have been hacked:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2006/aug/07/hacking.s...

https://www.news18.com/blogs/india/jaimon-joseph/your-biomet...

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/02/19/passport.security/index.h...

https://www.google.com/search?q=biometric+passport+hacked

Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture – you just won’t find it on Instagram

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I run an independent film/animation/music/interactive studio- I have never owned any mobile phone and don't use any social media except for youtube. Our studio is not on any social media platforms. We are the counterculture. Our studio has released torrents of media over the past 15 years that I would classify as counterculture but you would never know because we aren't hustling on Zuckerbergian platforms or playing…

YouTube is filled with so many interesting little channels. I wish the algorithms highlighted them more. I remember one channel of an old guy just smoking a cigar for an hour. Said nothing, just sat there. There were thousands of videos of him doing this, going back years. I don’t remember the name of it, unfortunately.

There used to be a televangelist that did something similar. He would light up his cigar and drink his whiskey, and yell at the audience he was not going to preach until a his audience called in with some donation threshold. He would then cut to footage of his/a horse running around in a field/pen.

Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture – you just won’t find it on Instagram

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I run an independent film/animation/music/interactive studio- I have never owned any mobile phone and don't use any social media except for youtube. Our studio is not on any social media platforms. We are the counterculture. Our studio has released torrents of media over the past 15 years that I would classify as counterculture but you would never know because we aren't hustling on Zuckerbergian platforms or playing…

how is youtube counterculture?

The fact that you can post pretty much any video you make for people to watch is totally counterculture the media studio TV programming culture that has lost viewers to platforms like YT. It has become so big itself that it is now pretty much the defacto culture.
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