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Re: One hull crack located in ISS, another one suspected

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All of what you said can better be done by machines and many such things are done by machines. The milestones that get people existed are when men reach places hitherto unreached, but there is no practical purpose to risking the life of a man who needs far more complicated facilities to survive, other than bragging rights. The I.S.S. was largely a political and not a scientific endeavor, and it's a shame it consumed…

> could have easily given mankind nuclear fusion There's no proof of this because viable nuclear fusion has not yet been achieved. Humanity may never achieve this for all we know (though I sincerely hope we do).

The same can be said about any research whereto resources are allocated.

Making a reasonable estimate when both started, nuclear fusion seems to be a smarter investment, for if it finally be there, the benefits are incalculable.

Re: One hull crack located in ISS, another one suspected

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It was actually the side-mount design that made the least sense. It left the heatshield completely exposed to ice and insulation strikes.

Could they have mounted 2 space shuttles, bottom to bottom, instead? Where the 2nd space shuttle was the fuel tank, and it lands somewhere down range, and is then transported back to the launch center by barge.

Yes, a crewed fuel tank was one of the designs considered, as was three shuttles (2 crewed tanks + 1 ship) in a triangle. Visit the Udvar-Hazy Air & Space Museum Annex in Virginia if you ever get a chance, there’s an exhibit on all the proposed designs. We got the worst possible one.

Re: One hull crack located in ISS, another one suspected

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They have put tape on suspected leak areas in Zvezda before.

So bizarre to imagine a space station patched up with duct tape o_O Assuming the ISS is never going re-enter the Earth's atmosphere, how permanent a solution is tape? Presumably the fracture underneath will get worse with time.

They use kapton tape but close enough.

Re: One hull crack located in ISS, another one suspected

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A can of this should do it: https://www.holtsauto.com/holts/products/tyreweld/

Or maybe that sealant Flex Seal they advertise on TV that you can make a boat from :-)

You joke but it doesn't take much to seal this type of leak. They could probably use scotch tape.

Re: One hull crack located in ISS, another one suspected

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Anecdotal evidence isn’t evidence. They’re capable, what they lack(ed) is the creativity to do so.

You mean my whole youth lived around Soviet-made goods is an 'anecdotal evidence'? Well, perhaps I should have tried living in those fantasy Soviet Unions some people on the internet love so much. Those must have been magnificent states!

Well, it does remain anecdotal evidence. The point of the above commenter is that while they could be made the lack of creativity in planned economies lead to them not being made, not that there were made.

Re: One hull crack located in ISS, another one suspected

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I think we need a "Space New Deal", I'm honestly saddened by the lack of progress in space in my lifetime. I mean we've done some great work, but we haven't made any giant leaps since getting to the moon 51.5 years ago. Thankfully, we do have SpaceX et. al. who really are making some big strides -- but how do we multiply & speed up that effort? ... sorry, I'm being selfish, but I really want to go to Mars.

> but how do we multiply & speed up that effort? I think it's pretty much politically impossible. The first big space push was mostly a political pissing match (i.e. not really driven by doing it for its own sake). It's pretty easy to come up with other major challenges that most people will consider more important that also aren't getting funding ... so private industry looks more likely to get some traction. States…

> Mars in your lifetime is implausible,

Do you say that to mean 'anyone living's lifetime', or on the assumption that GP was alive for the 'moon landing 51.5 years ago' mentioned?

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