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Re: Radio users reminded not to use radios in crimes

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The reason there's no requirement to identify yourself is that this stuff isn't hard to make and the FCC already employs professionals for tracking (this is a common sport) and arresting people who abuse the radios.

not sure what you're referring to, amateur operators have to identify themselves

More accurately they're legally obligated to when transmitting.

Re: Radio users reminded not to use radios in crimes

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If the BLM protestors attempted to storm buildings defended by the federal police that were deployed to those protests, they'd have been mowed down with light machine guns. Had the police not rioted themselves, nothing would have happened even if BLM had come to fight because it would have been abundantly clear that escalation would not lead to rising property values in Tokyo. The Capitol should have been much better…

They attemtpted to storm a federal building in Portland every night for weeks without being "gunned down".

No they didn't.

Re: Radio users reminded not to use radios in crimes

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> Rebellion is bad Not always. Not saying it is here, but I think it depends on the context. Arab Spring, for instance.

What's interesting to note is that the Arab Spring was largely organized on social media platforms like Facebook and Twitter. US media outlets were thrilled about this, and wrote article after article talking about how these platforms gave the common man the opportunity to vent about police brutality, corruption, election fraud, and unemployment in a way that simply wasn't possible previously. The general attitude at…

Another parallel: the Arab Spring revolts were hijacked by Islamists everywhere but Tunisia, and whatever legitimate complaints ("anti-hyperglobalization"?) galvanized the Trump movement in its early days were ultimately drowned out by the much louder voices of white nationalists (QAnon/PB) and apocalypse-seekers[1] who wanted to use the movement to gain power.

1: https://newrepublic.com/article/160922/capitol-riot-revealed...

Re: Radio users reminded not to use radios in crimes

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Yes?

Your statement might be true if intelligence was say, uniformly distributed. But intelligence (like a lot of natural phenomena) is closer to a normal distribution.

You can split normally-distributed populations into 2 halves - "average" may also refer to median. Also, by definition, half the population has an IQ[1] less than 100 (which is the mean). Gp is correct - most people are not as "smart as you are" if you are above average (IQ).

Re: Radio users reminded not to use radios in crimes

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This is how we humans think of our outgroup. While your ingroup is unique individuals with good and bad traits, your outgroup is an undifferentiated "them" that is selfish, untrustworthy, stupid, the reason for all these problems we're having, and we really may have to do something about them one of these days!

You're right to remind us about the cognitive biases relating to in-groups and out-groups[1], but let's remember that in the context of this thread, the original comment about "idiots" was: "These people are idiots. Bringing their cellphones, recording video of themselves committing felonies and then posting them online." It doesn't seem that the commenter was branding every voter for the opposing candidate an idiot,…

Well, technically, I only mentioned that that is how our "tribal urges" work.

I think it's an important thing to be aware of, ideally so you can recognize these thought patterns in yourself and others.

But of course I also implied that OP was doing this. A fairer description would note that most capitol invaders did not publish themselves committing felonies. Taking the dumbest/worst behaved members of the outgroup as typical is textbook.

And from inside the other group, the tribal brain thinks those crimes were committed by antifa provocateurs.

Re: Radio users reminded not to use radios in crimes

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This attitude really saddens me. We should be advocating for all protestors to be treated with such gentle touch, not for all protestors to be brutalized the way BLM protestors were. Thankfully, this is the attitude I have heard from most BLM leaders.

>We should be advocating for all protestors to be treated with such gentle touch, not for all protestors to be brutalized the way BLM protestors were. When we do that, we still get shot by the police and nothing changes. Maybe if white people face consequences for once, things will change.

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/371094-an-eye-for-an-eye-we...

Re: Radio users reminded not to use radios in crimes

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> These people are idiots. Bringing their cellphones, recording video of themselves committing felonies and then posting them online. I don't think it's as simple as "these people were idiots because they recorded themselves committing a crime", to paraphrase this line of thinking. I'm pretty sure these people convinced themselves, and each other, that they were breaking the law to save the country. They thought they…

I don't think so. They were at the Capitol for a few hours. They committed some vandalism and brawled with the Capitol police. Maybe the guy with the zip ties thought he was there for revolution, but most seemed to be taking advantage of an opportunity to run in and see or loot the Capitol.

> loot the Capitol

Shoot, they really did a bad job of that... Looks like they need to take some notes from the British on how to do it properly! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_of_Washington#U.S._Cap...

Re: Radio users reminded not to use radios in crimes

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Your statement might be true if intelligence was say, uniformly distributed. But intelligence (like a lot of natural phenomena) is closer to a normal distribution.

You can split normally-distributed populations into 2 halves - "average" may also refer to median . Also, by definition, half the population has an IQ[1] less than 100 (which is the mean). Gp is correct - most people are not as "smart as you are" if you are above average (IQ).

Do you know the term 'histogram'? Think about three pillars superimposed on the image you can see in the Wikipedia link - people around the middle, people below the middle group, people above the middle group. Most people are in the middle group. Most people are about as smart as you. A smaller number people are less smart and a smaller number are more smart. Get it?

Re: Radio users reminded not to use radios in crimes

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There's a corpse in a morgue that'd like to disagree with you.

Now compare with a list of people with dark skin who were executed by police. Looking at these two numbers it's quite reasonable to conclude white people don't face consequences.

Should we have them shoot a few more white people to match the overall population makeup by race?

Police:

+ Shoot and kill more unarmed white people than any other race

+ Overall shoot more white people

+ Shoot and kill people by race proportional to the recorded violent crimes stats

+ Shoot less than a hundred unarmed people per year, total

And, none of this is really surprising. White people make up more of the population so of course they're going to be a majority of police encounters, including Use of Force (UoF). Not every UoF encounter is illegal or unethical, even if the other person is unarmed - life is not an action movie where you can vulcan pinch someone unconscious.

Whenever somebody brings up that UoF incidents by race match the violent crimes committed by race, usually it ends in a shouting match of who can claim racism the loudest. Yet we can recognize over-representation in violent crimes by any race is probably due to lack of resources - and we know the things that reduce violence in any population (marriage, having kids, being meaningfully employed[1]) are less accessible to many minority populations.

We'd make a bigger dent in UoF incidents and crime in 5 years by just making pre-K childcare free and widely accessible than any amount of angry protests will ever accomplish.

[1]: This doesn't mean low paying temporary or part time work, but either a trade or profession with longterm gain

Re: Radio users reminded not to use radios in crimes

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>We should be advocating for all protestors to be treated with such gentle touch, not for all protestors to be brutalized the way BLM protestors were. When we do that, we still get shot by the police and nothing changes. Maybe if white people face consequences for once, things will change.

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/371094-an-eye-for-an-eye-we...

It's easy to post quotes like this when your eye has never been in danger.
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