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New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by mad182 »

gumby wrote: post #202

I don't understand the port fetish. I admit my mac use case doesn't involve plugging much of anything into my machine, but Type C is pretty ubiquitous by now.

> Type C is pretty ubiquitous by now.

Not really. From top of my head I could easily gather > 30 things at my house with the plain old USB A connector (several flash drives, keyboards, mouses, Bluetooth and WiFi adapters, smart card reader, external hdd enclosures, a stack of old laptops, r-pi, headphones, routers, playstation, tv, car diagnostics cables and probably several other things I can't remember). There are USB A connectors in all 3 cars in my family. And probably a dozen more devices with mini/micro USB - dslr camera, couple of tablets and older phones, dashcams, thermal imaging camera, powerbank...

Meanwhile there are exactly 3 devices with usb-c ports - 2 phones and one of several laptops (which also has several usb a ports). The only regular use of USB C for me is charging my phone. Everything else is on USB A or micro USB.

Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by Brendinooo »

Klathmon wrote: post #224
ravenstine wrote: post #216

I'll believe it when I see it. I could believe them getting rid of the touchbar, but bringing back magsafe? I'm sticking with my 2015 MacBook until it's irreparable, and I do like the magsafe port, but is there really any point in going back after moving to USB-C? I think I just like magsafe because it's cool more than that it actually has some sort of superiority over USB-C. I've tripped over the USB-C cable to my w…

I wonder if the "MagSafe" they are talking about is the new magsafe wireless charging on the iphone 12? It would be nice to be able to have a charging pad for my laptop rather than needing to mess with wires at all. Speculation time! I wonder if they will be able to put a magsafe wireless charging spot both under the laptop, and on top next to the trackpad! They could let you charge your iphone from your laptop, and…

The Apple Pencil 2 and Magic Keyboard case attach to an iPad extremely well. Wouldn't be hard to imagine the new MagSafe being somewhere in the same spot as before but not having any kind of "port" that juts out or in.

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Post by marvin »

shaolinspirit wrote: post #260
pdimitar wrote: post #223

And THAT will make me finally replace my MacBook Pro 2015. No touch bar, MagSafe, good amount of ports. The iPhone 12-esque design is a good bonus too (I like it more than all others before it). Only took 5-6 years but I am again excited about MacBooks.

lol, I was thinking I'm the only one sitting with my 2015 macpro ^_^ love this laptop, however it got super slow and the battery life is almost zero, which is fine after almost 4 years of serving.

2014 version here. It looks like someone ran over it with a forklift after I sent it as checked luggage once (they probably did just that), but I won't upgrade to a Mac unless they're able to make them compelling again.

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Post by stblack »

aaomidi wrote: post #210

The touchbar is such a cool piece of technology. I'm sad to see users didn't embrace it as much as they could've. It created a dynamically adapting interface that just opened up so many more possibilities.

The problem with the Touch Bar is, merely grazing it ever so slightly with a fingertip causes countless freaky side effects.

I've reverted to a straight, function-key-icons-only Touch Bar and it's still a problem for me.

I estimate since 2018 — the year I bought this MBP — I've had tens of thousands of irritating inadvertent errors interrupt my flow.

So frustrating. If this ships as described, I'm ordering one on Day 1 and then I'm NEVER going to use this Touch Bar MBP again.

Touch Bar was a stupid idea. It should have been optional, not default. Had it been optional from the start, there's no way it would still be an option, it would be discontinued years ago. Because few people would be ordering a Touch Bar MBP after they tried it for an ownership cycle.

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Post by Joeri »

nikau wrote: post #142
mih wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hear you. I have the same thoughts. Touchpads on most laptops have sufficed for my use. People swear by the touchpad on Macbooks, but to me it never really was that big of an improvement. My bias could be due to the fact that I don't use the touchpad exclusively and always attach a mouse when I can.

Its a hangover for 10 years ago when low end laptop touchpads were pretty bad. I find my carbon X1 touchpad nicer to use than my 15" macpro. Although I am impressed how well they made the haptic tap feel like a real button on the mac.

The X1 isn’t low end. Low end trackpads on windows laptops are still abysmal in most cases.

Anecdotally, there’s a store near me which arranges laptops by price. I often start at the high end and try the keyboard and mouse, working my way to the low end. Somewhere in the middle it changes over from “this is fine” to “it feels like nails on a chalk board”.

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Post by turtlebits »

ksec wrote: post #15
simonmales wrote: post #4

Reading this, it feels like the MacBook Pro of 2015 is finally getting an upgrade. Took them 5 years to go back and restore the old school. Great to hear a couple iterations ago they restored the keyboard. Now with dropping the touch bar and bringing back mag safe. My 2015 daily driver might see retirement.

>Great to hear a couple iterations ago they restored the keyboard. Magic Keyboard was only introduced in mid 2020. And they are still not as good as MBP 2015 in terms of typing experience. Magic Keyboard Key Travel - 1mm MacBook 2015 Key Travel - 1.3mm Key Spacing as well. They are tiny in Magic Keyboard Layout and it is harder to "sense" the keys apart. >Took them 5 years to go back and restore the old school. Track…

Barring the reliability issues, the butterfly keyboard is my favorite, even over the 2015. That said, they are all good and don’t matter enough to sway what machine to buy.

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Post by ryandrake »

switz wrote: post #66

If anyone from Apple is reading, let me just say – this is exactly what I want. Magsafe charging. Function keys instead of the touchbar. 15-16" screen. M1 CPU. 32GB Memory. I also prefer the 2015 keyboard, but it's not a dealbreaker. I'll pay for the kickstarter now if it means it'll come out in the next 18 months. Please make it happen.

Yup. All I want is a 2014-or-so form factor——forever. Update the tech guts year after year, but keep the old design. It’s perfect and requires no more innovation.

While you’re at it, Apple, just keep High Sierra forever and just do bug fixes and security patches. No new features!

One can only dream.......,

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Post by dhbanes »

llaolleh wrote: post #265

This is the part that I really don't get. Apple takes away all those features, but then brings them back? What is the reasoning behind this?

Jony Ive is gone. That’s why they brought back a functional keyboard anyway.
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