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Misunderstanding about the inner workings of China isn't the CCP's fault, at least not at this level. The discourse about China, misunderstandings about how the Chinese systems functions, and lack of even a basic interest in getting a realistic view of China are rampant. The average view of China in the US is so cartoonish it's quite ridiculous. If you talk to an educated, middle-class Chinese audience about the US p…
The US government isn't really THAT much different from Japan and all of Europe, Australia, Canada, Mexico, Brazil, etc... Even India and, theoretically, even Russia, too. So, it's not surprising the average Chinese person has a decent understanding of how a basic democracy works. In some ways, China is also not THAT much different, either. But it is more different than pretty much every other major economy in the wo…
I've yet to find a country where that country's inhabitants aren't mostly concerned with themselves and I've been to quite a few countries.
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> billions of yuan flowing from Chinese consumers to Bezos' pocket I started my post with the assumption that Amazon is never going to get big in China . Regardless of whether Bezos is nice to the CCP or not, the CCP is not going to allow Amazon to displace Alibaba. My comment is referring competing for business in the rest of the world. Other countries where Alibaba and Amazon are both trying to gain marker share.
I didn't see the part including and following "Obviously they aren't getting more Chinese business..." when I made my comment. I don't think we disagree, then.
I think China is fighting hard to block any other Western companies from entering their markets.
I suspect Apple is tolerated only because so much of Apple's manufacturing costs are in China.
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>Who is praising the CCP's economic rise? A majority of Americans until relatively recently? China was seen favorably by most Americans until the last decade. An economic world power that we should strengthen relations with if polls are to be believed. For example: https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/10/06/unfavorable-vi...
We need to get things straight: everyone should praise the rise of Chinese people's living standards, which has been astonishing in the last 45 years or so, and has taken 850 million people out of poverty[0]! This is not something a reasonable person can argue against! The increase in human wellbeing in the whole planet has been almost entirely due to the Chinese in the last 50 years. That doest' mean we should prais…
Your last point is salient and I think lost on many westerners who have not studied Chinese history.
Chinese civil wars (for lack of a better term to capture the sheer scale and complexity) have had body counts that make the American Civil War look like a drunken bar fight.
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#276In China the government silences the enterprises if they run out of step, in the US the enterprises silence the governments if they run out of step.
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I'm sorry but Guo wen Gui is not a credible source. His past claims have repeatedly been debunked. Not to mention his deep ties with Steve bannon
Guo Wen Gui has made some previous claims that seemed outlandish at the time, but turned out to be true, such as China forcibly taking control of Hong Kong, causing protesters to flood the streets; the CCP lying/withholding information on the transmission and the origins of the virus; billionaires being kidnapped/murdered after conflict with the CCP. I would agree that he often exaggerates, and some of his claims do…
if you throw enough shit at the wall, some will stick
doesn't change the fact it's shit
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#278Guo Wengui said back in September 2019 that "Jack Ma would be jailed or killed" on Kyle Bass's youtube channel. [1] At this point its not even a question of whether we will see Jack Ma in public again. Overnight he went from billionaire to peasantry. We've seen dozen cases like this: 1) Billionaire disappears or is "killed" 2) Billionaire's company becomes nationalized 3) Rinse & Repeat Everybody who isn't familiar w…
He is just lying low. He is not missing.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/alibaba-founder-jack...
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We need to get things straight: everyone should praise the rise of Chinese people's living standards, which has been astonishing in the last 45 years or so, and has taken 850 million people out of poverty[0]! This is not something a reasonable person can argue against! The increase in human wellbeing in the whole planet has been almost entirely due to the Chinese in the last 50 years. That doest' mean we should prais…
> 850 million people out of poverty. This is not something a reasonable person can argue against! I'd argue against it on the grounds that the planet doesn't have enough resources for everyone to live a middle class lifestyle.
Are you really arguing that due to limited resources people in less developed countries in Asia or Africa should continue to suffer so that the developed countries can keep their middle class lifestyle?