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I wish they excluded extremes on both sides of the spectrum. Otherwise, it makes Cabal seem like a Parler for the extreme left. (Maybe it is not; I know nothing about people behind Cabal.)
Why is excluding the far-right a thing associated specifically with the far-left? Would politically moderate people not also want to exclude eg. Nazis?
Checked the FAQ. Downside: It doesn't support Tor and they don't seem to have any plan for that. So it's trusted-friends-only, IPs are always visible. Which is pointless for me, as a person trying to build healthy online friendships from behind Tor. Upside: I was afraid it's a reaction to Parler being deplatformed. And then I thought maybe it was a side-project of Urbit. But looking at the Values page: "No nazis, no…
> or anyone friendly with them This is disgusting - it implies that you should pick and choose your friends based on political affiliation, which not only is extremely (and intentionally) divisive, but also provides no room for guiding these individuals back to a more moderate political stance. Without being friends (or at least interacting with) with those who have been ostracized by society, how, exactly, do you pr…
Trying to change the mind of someone who believes you deserve to die is painful at best and not worth the time.
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I don’t distance myself from people with a different opinion. I distance myself from people that have a different opinion for the wrong reasons.
Is there a difference? The reasons we hold our opinions are fundamentally just another set of opinions. Unless you're talking about something more fundamental - in that case, yes, we can still be friends when our first principles are opposed. It's just harder. I think it comes down to just how tolerant we're willing to be. It's easy to be tolerant when the stakes are low; who cares if someone is doing something somew…
That seems like a foolish ideal that has the end result of you being marginalized, with people who would do harm to you and others gaining control of society. Frankly, it sounds like just another system of control invented by religious leaders.
People who actively do us harm should be swiftly and firmly disabused of the notion that what they're doing will ever be tolerated. Anything less is folly.
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I love the idea of a site that doesn't give Nazis a voice. This is apparently somehow a controversial idea. It is becoming exhausting.
All Nazi books should be burnt since we don't want certain information existing in the world. I actually think rounding up all Nazis and putting them in labor camps might be okay. Heck, what about actually killing nazis? Is there some kind of political idealogy where taking these actions against minorities is supported and allowed?
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This new trend in identity politics is more disturbing than anything the left or right has done.
I love the idea of a site that doesn't give Nazis a voice. This is apparently somehow a controversial idea. It is becoming exhausting.
Let's take eugenics as an example (intentionally controversial given you brought up the Nazis); and in this example all we're doing is replacing "voice/free speech" with "eugenics". Everyone agrees someone policing who gets to reproduce or not is a bad idea because such policing is impossible to do objectively/fairly/morally/ethically.
Why is such policing any easier or less important for political views and discussion? It's not. Policing people's opinions and silencing, censoring, or removing content is just as impossible. Is some message a very out of taste troll, sarcasm, some inside joke, intentional smearing, discussion of a controversial topic? Well, any sense of objective discussion there goes out of the window because a _human_ has to police it and until we can quantify with exact precision and accuracy through a machine the meaning behind human communication (we can't yet(?)) this is an impossible (for now) problem to solve.
We cannot even ask Siri/Alexa to do complicated tasks.
Checked the FAQ. Downside: It doesn't support Tor and they don't seem to have any plan for that. So it's trusted-friends-only, IPs are always visible. Which is pointless for me, as a person trying to build healthy online friendships from behind Tor. Upside: I was afraid it's a reaction to Parler being deplatformed. And then I thought maybe it was a side-project of Urbit. But looking at the Values page: "No nazis, no…
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All Nazi books should be burnt since we don't want certain information existing in the world. I actually think rounding up all Nazis and putting them in labor camps might be okay. Heck, what about actually killing nazis? Is there some kind of political idealogy where taking these actions against minorities is supported and allowed?
Are you suggesting it is not in a society's interest to limit hate speech against minorities? Because that is what is being discussed.
I still don't know what's wrong with IRC.
Not user friendly. Not everyone is an internet nerd like us.
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The problem is it give approved extremists a voice while bragging about not giving unapproved extremists a voice. That should be controversial.
I'm trying to understand how to channel what you said. Are you saying that being extremely against Nazis is bad because being extremely anything is bad and we should only have non-extreme feelings?
Why is it hard to understand how hypocritical it is of most groups screaming about the DC riots when those same groups are tactly supportive of worse over longer periods of time?
At no point did I say "being anti nazi" is bad... I said being anti-extremist while being pro-extremist is... questionable.
Network connections are getting faster... Peoples typing/reading speeds are not... One day it will be feasible for someone's phone to receive all messages sent by every other person on earth. They can then try to decode every message till they find one that their private key can decode. You've now made the perfect privacy messaging system - by sending all messages to all users, no quantity of network packet sniffing/…