Just build your own website bro Just build your own host bro Just build your own financial banking system bro Just build your own water and power infrastructure bro
Just storm the capital and start your own country bro. Wait. uh.
Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler
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#272The short term calculus seems pretty clear: if a service is unable to moderate conversations that are inciting and planning imminent violence that undermines the fabric of democratic society (aka inauguration or the disruption of the transfer of power over the next 12 days), its better to shut it off than keep it around in case that violence comes to pass. Precautionary principle applies and a circuit breaker goes of…
Is Snap Chat moderated?
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#273People love this and it honestly makes me sick. “Because what I don’t like is being removed I’m happy” —- Now what happens when something you DO like is removed?
It will be like DMCA but for political content. They start with the obvious abuse and then whack anything they don’t like with it. AND YOU’RE ROLLING OUT THE WELCOME MAT!
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#274This is an incredibly sort timeframe to expect someone to be able to migrate off AWS. If there infrastructure is docker, or K8 than they can move quickly, but if they are tied into more than a couple of AWS specific services like Route 53 or Lambda then a migration is a big ask.
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#275Regardless of my/your thoughts on Parler, godspeed to those engineers. Assuming a majority of Parler infra is hosted on AWS, and it wasn't built to be multi-cloud, moving hosting providers in ~36 hours seems like a herculean task.
I’m sure Alibaba, Tencent or Yandex is ready with a turnkey lift and shift solution.
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#276> “[W]e cannot provide services to a customer that is unable to effectively identify and remove content that encourages or incites violence against others,” This seems to be the standard
that's every social media site of non-trivial size. they're opening pandora's box here. does the footage of killings during the Syrian civil war on youtube qualify? shouldn't photos of hanging homosexuals from cranes get you deplatformed? no? why not?
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#277Reading Amazon's reasoning, tech companies are basically setting a standard that if you want to have user-generated content, you must have professional moderators. This seems like it will be a barrier to innovation.
More like "fucking finally!" Also, there are plenty of communities (Reddit, Wikipedia, Steam forums, HN, etc.) with moderators that haven't devolved into a dystopian policed-speech nightmare.
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#278Whatever your feelings about Parler, political content moderation at the cloud services level, by a monopoly company with very particular business interests, is a serious threat to free speech online.
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#279When Egyptian government turns off internet during a revolution, we call them tyrants and celebrate Twitter for allowing people to communicate freely. Yet, when US turns off a side of an argument the marginally elected majority disagrees with, we praise it. Everything is fine...
One side of the argument? Or armed insurrectionists?
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#280It has been gone too far.