Why does the author call Palantir morally ruinous?
Ownership of palantir had a very bad influence on Sauron and Saruman, so I think it's a plausible theory.
The Internet Is for Porn
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#272Earlier quoted context omitted.
How is making an OnlyFans account, where the content creator is completely in control of their actions, in any way comparable to pimping? There isn't even a "pimp" in this scenario. The women have 100% agency in when, how, and what to post. To me that does seem pretty liberating.
You are assuming that the creator of the OnlyFans site is not under duress in any way. You are also assuming that the creator and maintainer of the site is the same person who is featured on the site. Exploitation of women (and men) can happen even in the most seemingly egalitarian of communities.
Almost everybody who has a job to make money is under duress. Do you think the garbage collector just does that job because it's their hobby?
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#273As an asexual person, I wish this wasn’t the case, and I find it extremely triggering how hard it is to completely avoid adult content online. It certainly has had a negative affect on my mental health. I also find it ridiculous how services like PornHub and OnlyFans are featuring a lot of videos which clearly fetishizes borderline (okay, obvious) pedophilia, and, since its profitable, only pull it down when they mig…
Wow - I am amazed at the number of people commenting who might not realize I am a multiple time even recent victim of violent sexual assault - and no, it’s not just ‘mildly annoying’, it can send me into tears. I’ve never seen such a lack of understanding or felt so personally attacked on HN before, as if you guys think I’m a pussy or something because you couldn’t imagine a case in which maybe, yes; it actually nega…
"Fuck y’all’s insensitivity" - amazing summary, really. I've seen this attitude a lot, but these 4 words is the best summary I've seen. You basically said that unless we tip toe around your sensitivity and morning mood, we all can go to hell. That's like going to a nightclub and demanding to put the volume down and to change music to something less tasteless, maybe Mozart or Bach, because otherwise you'd feel unwelcome in the club.
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#274Earlier quoted context omitted.
> That it hollows out the sanctity of this intimate and symbolic act. See that's the problem. We as a society need to stop putting sex on a pedestal. It's just sex. Pleasure is pleasure, why would anyone not want to be pleasured? And why is pleasure something that has to be earned ? It is very simple to give and receive pleasure, why complicate that?
Perhaps because many communities deeply believe sex is more than just for pleasure?
But not for making babies, as per the astronomically high unplanned pregnancy rate.
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#276Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What? Maybe extremist groups like the proud boys, but I’ve literally never heard this objection I meant this part as quite analogous to the drug debate. People dislike drug comsumers because they feel drugs are a cheat: you get unearned pleasure without having to work for it. You sidestep your noble duties of working and earning the fruits of your labours by short-circuiting and hooking your brain directly on to pl…
> People dislike drug comsumers because they feel drugs are a cheat: you get unearned pleasure without having to work for it. While I can certainly imagine someone feeling this way, I've never thought this and I've never heard anyone express this perspective. I think you may be imagining too hard .
I've seen this take a few times.
It's common, at least in my bubble.
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#277Plenty has been written in this thread about the article's take on SV attitudes on sex workers. For the most part, I think the article is right. But there's another reason why tech orgs and banks don't want porn, which it completely ignores: the sheer quantity of bad actors around the industry. Chargebacks, disputes, hacking, spam, money laundering, content theft, stalking, child pornography, and so forth are all endemic to the porn industry. Sure there's gold in them thar hills, and lots of it, but the hills are being shelled and ninjas are hiding in every bush. Perhaps OnlyFans is finding a better path. Or maybe they're just in the early golden age before the same forces crowd in and shell them, too.
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#278NB: Writing from a perspective of someone who grew up in a conservative society (Tier 2-3 city in India), and may have a different take. Porn has become one of those buzzwords which triggers an emotional response and is used as a political tool by everyone. ("Taking away our culture and morally corrupting the young generation" is a common refrain heard around me by prominent people even today). I feel that anything w…
If one's culture can be taken away by porn, one hadn't much culture to begin with. If one's morals can be corrupted by porn, one hadn't much morals to begin with. Where porn exposes one's weaknesses, one should introspect to evolve, not tilt against windmills.
I think this logic is flawed as hell
It sounds like "we shouldnt help the weaker ones"
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#279Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sites like OnlyFans have nothing to do with you or relationships in general. The vast majority of people don't go on those types of sites. I assure you, the thing that is stopping you from being in a relationship isn't Only fans. I'd recommend trying to find ways to build up yourself confidence.
What women expect from men seems to have sharply risen in the last decade. Before getting my degree and getting in shape I was able to find partners. Nowadays people aren't even willing to be friends with me. If women's expectations in fact haven't gone up then I have no idea what the people from my past saw in me that more recent people don't.
When you climb the social ladder, there's a brief moment when yours and women's expectatitions aling, but that moment quickly passes and you enter the territory when the sides flip: women chase you, but you stay clear of any legally binding relationships. You perceive loneliness as a flaw, I perceive it as freedom, and while we're both lonely, we derive the opposite emotions from it.
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#280Porn always reminds me of other classical debates that have no end like guns and abortion. The camps of folks in the middle who are cognitively capable of making a difference can't because the outsized voices on either side of them are screaming for either total freedom or total shutdown. They actively fear monger people out of action so no real progress is made. It prevents the best coders and business people from w…
> virtually anything sex related, apart from toys, cannot be purchased with credit or debit cards So after all those years, we have finally found a use case for cryptocurrencies!
Don't forget drugs.