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Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

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Having used both Zoom and Meet extensively now for the past 6 months, my experience is: 1/ Your internet connection, especially upload bandwidth and latency matter a lot. 2/ Zoom's desktop app performs very well, but its web version is atrocious. Not just because of the dark patterns they use to force you to install the desktop app, but also its performance is terrible compared to its desktop version, as well as wors…

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I refuse to install Zoom. They have removed the dark pattern, and the "join via browser" option is almost immediately available. If you have it installed, now is a good time to uninstall it.

Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

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I worked as a freelance graphic artist/web designer once and while I wasn't bad at the job, I really hated one aspect of it: Everybody and their kid thought they knew better than I did. When I said: "Yeah but this should really be visible, because accessibility", they would say: " But it looks better if..." People in high paid position certainly want "has taste" and "knows what looks good" to be part of their self im…

What do you do as a programmer in film sound? How did you get into that? Sounds very niche/interesting

I actually studied film and through my music experience I was always "the sound guy" programming was actually more like a hobby until it turned out I am actually not bad at it.

Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

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What do you do as a programmer in film sound? How did you get into that? Sounds very niche/interesting

I actually studied film and through my music experience I was always "the sound guy" programming was actually more like a hobby until it turned out I am actually not bad at it.

I did a fair amount of indie films and know sound guys, so the part I am confused about is: what are you programming in film sound? is it per-film, or like software for film sound in general?

Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

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Curious to hear why? Google Meet is the only web-based videoconferencing product that works well for us without audio dropouts or random issues. Zoom's web client is particularly terrible, and we can't install the desktop client for security reasons. And the new background noise cancellation feature is magic.

We haven't run into issues with a self-hosted instance of Jitsi Meet. Might be worth a look.

Is your self hosted instance much higher quality than the public instance?

Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

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Is it possible to use it to control a Zoom session without virtualizing the audio/video input devices? Discord has a local API for that but I haven't found a way to control Zoom calls from another app.

Not sure what you mean by 'control a zoom session', but yes I use it with Zoom. I use OBS to composite video and some audio, I use the OBS virtual camera as the camera device in Zoom, for audio I usually use the straigh microphone stream because it's fiddly to set up (you have to do the mixing outside OBS because OBS doesn't have a virtual audio device). If you mean that you just want to mute/unmute a zoom session, t…

Thanks for the explanation! Sorry, I got distracted and forgot to write a reply. I don't need the full range of features offered by OBS yet, but I'm strongly considering setting it up just to have control over the video stream. I'm using the Zoom (hah) portable recorder for audio since it offers outstanding audio quality, convenient mic controls and basic signal processing. The problem with controlling apps via keystrokes is exactly what you describe: since the communication is one way, the state of the toggle buttons inevitably gets out of sync. I think maybe using the accessibility API to read the UI state back can help, but I'm not holding my breath.
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