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Re: Microsoft is letting employees work from home permanently

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_qulr wrote: post #142
ptero wrote: post #135

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I do not see this around me at all. There is probably some truth in this for the FAANG "work 80 hrs a week, get rich in 5 years" jobs (probably because those who want to work 80+ hours a week and get rich quick-er tend to be young folks without major commitments). However, there are plenty of people around me who are in the 40-60 age bracket, who work in tech, are financially comfortable (even though they do not get…

> I do not see this around me at all. Are you denying the existence of rampant age discrimination in tech, which has been highlighted countless times by many people? Otherwise, I'm not sure what the comment was intending. > there are plenty of people around me There's a bit of survivorship bias there. The older people driven out of tech may be invisible to you.

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Post by ghthor »

sgerenser wrote: post #270
ghthor wrote: post #268

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It was the entire portion, was not through an employer.

It sounds like you had the equivalent of “short term health insurance.” They might not have called it that back then, but it’s sold now under that name (with limitations on how long you can remain in the policy that were relaxed recently) to remain ACA compliant. You can still buy these type of plans (at least in my state, North Carolina) for under $100/mo. There are lifetime maximums, exclusions for pre existing con…

It's not. I had a low deductible and a low yearly maximum out of pocket. They didnt deny me for a pre existing condition, my knees, and I had 2 knee surgeries while on the insurance and my low deductible and co-insurance meant I spent less the $3000 for both surgeries combined.

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Post by mapt »

Viliam1234 wrote: post #256
nwienert wrote: post #215

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If women on average prefer to work less hours isn’t the concerning thing the people who seem to want to force them to work more? Especially when it’s oftentimes men that call this a “problem”? It seems unless you have some data showing their preference is to work more but they are limited by something externally forced on them, and you’d need data not opinion, you shouldn’t be concern-trolling. Women buy more dresses…

> If women on average prefer to work less hours But do they prefer it more than men? Maybe we should be more careful about this assumption. I am a man, and I would prefer to work less hours. Unfortunately, my options are mostly limited to full-time or nothing. Here is how it works: suppose that both me and my wife are at a job interview, and we both say that we want a part-time job. The obvious question is "why?" If…

> I am usually told that those are only meant for women.

Is this the US?

If so: Isn't this a full-on gender discrimination lawsuit waiting to happen under Title IX?

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Post by make3 »

mc32 wrote: post #7
PeterStuer wrote: post #5

The nuance you might not get from just the title: "Microsoft will now allow employees to work from home freely for less than 50 percent of their working week, or for managers to approve permanent remote work. " In order for true relocation to be an option, that 'manager approval' must be unequivocal, unrevocable and transferable, when, as happens very frequently at Microsoft, the worker gets a new manager.

Remote work is possible, but it’s not for everyone. Some people are good at it; they adapt well and remain productive. But... as Marissa Meier found out, some people are utterly bad at it, or some take advantage of the privilege of self management and milk the system. So they will have to measure and gauge to see the balance of benefits and detriments of permanent change.

what's the Marissa Meier thing?

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Post by iso1631 »

wbl wrote: post #110
iso1631 wrote: post #80

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Healthcare is provided for everyone in my country from central taxation - same as police, education, defence. You can top it up with private care which can offer you things like more convenient appointments, quicker appointments for non-urgent cases, nicer accommodation if you do have to stay in, etc. For a healthy, non-smoking 35-year-old you're looking around $80 a month. For a healthy, non-smoking 70-year-old you'…

Excess=Deductable?

I guess so - very few people (1 in 7 I think) have health insurance in the UK, but I assume it's like car insurance - if my car is written off, I have to pay the first £250, and the company pays the next £10k (or whatever it's worth)

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Post by Viliam1234 »

mapt wrote: post #273
Viliam1234 wrote: post #256

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> If women on average prefer to work less hours But do they prefer it more than men? Maybe we should be more careful about this assumption. I am a man, and I would prefer to work less hours. Unfortunately, my options are mostly limited to full-time or nothing. Here is how it works: suppose that both me and my wife are at a job interview, and we both say that we want a part-time job. The obvious question is "why?" If…

> I am usually told that those are only meant for women. Is this the US? If so: Isn't this a full-on gender discrimination lawsuit waiting to happen under Title IX?

> Is this the US?

No.

Re: Microsoft is letting employees work from home permanently

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Post by hackbinary »

buzzerbetrayed wrote: post #156
hackbinary wrote: post #125

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Or, you know, vote in a government that will do single payer insurance.

Yeah, just let him do that real quick...

Healthcare seems like it is a pretty big problem in the USA. The USA spends ~20% of GDP on healthcare, while the other advanced economies spend around 10%.

For whatever reason, American love to malign things as socialist, and confuse communist totalitarian with socialism.

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Post by oblio »

farseer wrote: post #178

If this works, it would be Indians, Chinese and Eastern European coders who would make up the majority of Microsoft rank and file in a few years. Killing the H1B visa was not going to save American jobs, the corporations are always a step ahead. We are looking at a Microsoft with a truly global workforce. Why pay $150k to a dev when it would buy 5 Romanians instead who are just as good.

A good Romanian dev is about $60k. Maybe more.
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